CHIN, ZOMI, MIZO, ZO cih minvai tawh kisai India gam aom ih mipihte
kikupna, Debate bawlna hi. Sausimsim in alunglut velvelte bekin
atawpdong simzo bekding hi. This is the outcome of the debate about our nomenclatures like
Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi on FaceBook – Zolengthe Group. The debate Vaphual shows that every one of us clearly know who we are – We are Zo,
but some opined that Kuki nomenclature should be used as it is
recognised nationaly and internationally.
This is the starting point of the debate:
Dear friends,
MIZO=ZOMI, then is it something like both side of a coin?
If it is so, then there is no chance of sitting under one administrative
umbrella. Another Point: Mizo or Zomi ~ Which one should
be the right word? I know You will say both. But according to Pu T.
Gougin, Founder President of Zomi National Congress, “The land come first
and then the people” therefore, it should be Zo… Mi….. that means Zo =
Land and Mi = People. He further argued that MIZO is a wrong word;
because, before the creation of mankind, the universe was created… that's
why Mi cannot come first. Do you agree?
One debating point is that …..
most of us said that we are descendants of Pu Zo, then who is Pu Zo? Our
scholars said Zo/Jou is a forest.
What the hell is with all this nomenclatures?
Comments by
Rose Malsawmi, "khawiah pawh he issue hi chu argument tam thei hrim hrim.
i’m gonna shut my mouth coz i dont that much care about the zomi or
mizo. whatsoever who knows i might marry a zomi aka paihte
Michael Mate exactly, we keep on saying Kuki, Mizo n Zomi r
nomenclatures, they big words, its how we describe our nation, but going
by previous post, Mizos rather a tribe, n the so called tribes r
rather sub-tribes,..." Rose Malsawmi. Then pupu and i’m presently learning the language. lol. ka
kipak lua or bla bla bla
March 27 at 10:04pm · Like.
Thiangz Roux @pupu! Bt bt bt, land cum second in most advance
country~ENGLAND, NETHERLAND, POLAND, ICELAND, GREENLAND, NEW ZEALAND,
SWITZERLAND, SWAZILAND, SCOTLAND, IRELAND, NAGALAND, AND SO ON…
Pupu Zou @ Sawmi, kakipak lua is fine……….. kon ngai lua means love you
so much…. its better nah!
Pupu Zou Thats the difference between English and Zokam………. Zokam and
Englsih is ulta malta
Rose Malsawmi lolzz. ka kipak lua is thank you so much, kon ngai lua is
ka ngai lutuk nge or i love you so much, na hoih zel maw tulai meang are
you fine these dayd. am i right pupu
March 27 at 10:13pm · Like.
Onkholen Haokip Dear fren, whether u agree it or not….it’s a fact dat
among the so called Chìn-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi, Chin is d oldest N next come
Kuki, Mizo N Zomi. For instance wat were we (all d non-Naga tribe of
Manipur) know as during 1970s or 1980s. It’s not too old to be forgotten
right?
March 27 at 10:14pm · Like · 3 people.
Thiangz Roux 2 me, the word ZO is oldest and its even mentioned in
chinese history as one chinese barbaric tribe?
LamchaChongloi
I think there is somethig relativity/linkage betveen Isrealites and
Eimis, just go through the Old Testament, Exodus. Moses led
them(Israelites) from the clutch of SLAVERY/Death from Egypt and give
them the 10 Commandments of the Almighty YAVVEH/God but, 95% of them go
for IDOLs for their gods and goddess. Like that, the EIMIs chooses Mizo,
Kuki,Zomi etc. etc….. and one thing, ZO/JOU can never be forest. Forest
is GAMMANG/ RAMHMANG. Of course ZO/JOU is indeed forest if that forest is
covering ranges of Hillsthat also only to a particular region on this
GLOBE, the region that the BRITISH named it as “THE HILLS INDEPENDENT
COUNTRY” situated in the Northeastern part of India,touching Bangladesh,
and Burma.
Pupu Zou Lamcha Chongloi, this is what i always dont believe that we
have a linkage with the israelites. If we do have, how can we be so far
away from them? The middle east countries, the indian continent!
March 27 at 10:25pm · Like.
Rose Malsawmi i dont believe in the linkage of isrelites and us
Melody Zou Pupu then if zomi is mizo then wat abt us…where are we?i used
to think tat under zomi comes da tribes zou,paite,mizo,gangte,vaiphei
etc n under kuki comes da tribe thadou n under naga comes
thangkhul,kabui,anal etc…..m confused
Pupu Zou Melody, do not be confused. You are who you are. No
nomenclature is strong enough to bind us together. Therefore, you will
be who you are.
Thiangz Roux Some mizo tribes have a folk song and epic, myth related
with israelite song whix iz written as guidance by cloud at day and fire
at night…then their ancestors name as MANMASI~MANASEH, OFFERING OF
ANIMALS?
Michael Mate! We r all having this discussions as a result of falling
out in 1956,on the tribe issue,,then there was only chin n kuki,,(chin
for ppl in burma,n kuki for india)..N the Thadous took kuki as their
birthright,,n tht pushed all the non-thadou(including even some
thadou-speaking tribes) tribes away,,n u cn just imagine the
ramifications of a 55 yr hurt/pain/disaapointment ,,if only had KUKI
been accepted then(n not thadou forcefully made so),, I wonder if u guys
knew this or not,,but even the hihgest ever ranked eimi civil servant
Pu Jielsiem had to take his ST certificate under “thadou”
Onkholen Haokip Dear Pupu, in thadou ‘Jou/Zo’ is a part of forest. As
far as our linkages wit Isreal is concern, neither do i believe. I think
the nomenclature ‘EIMI’ is d best N most acceptable to be under one
umbrella.
Pupu Zou Thiangz Roux, they were decipheirng about the moment of Mosi
and Joshua seen in the Bible only, that was composed after converting in
to Christianity. We do have lots of such songs.
March 27 at 10:38pm · Like.
Pupu Zou Onkholen Haokip , until and unless we lay down our arms, EIMI
would also be useless. The best option will be a JOIN PLATFORM not
nomenclature. Something like ZEPADA or COPTAM or ATSUM or anything that
is a platform.
Lamcha Chongloi @Pu pupu, i believe that u r/ v r mature enough to say
that i m a true Christian. Then, it is simple that Eimis may be one of
the lost tribe, and i dont mean tobecome JUDISM.i also strongly oppose
this relativatization( thucheng thah kasem thu).
Melody Zou Oh god pupu,i really don understand,k agree tat we r one but
when it comes to da classification then i used to claim n tel others tat
i comes under da zomi now if da mizo claims like tat then my question
do i still say under da zomi or i tel i don ve roots…or are e da zou
still under zomi?
Michael Mate!! And the worst part is that the unofficial big
brother”thadous” of us Eimi(or who were formerly Kuki) realised their
folly too late,,say in this decade or just the past ( 2000 onwards)
alone..n by this time,,the differences have grown to such magnitudes
that reconciliation s too tuff a task,,n this sud b recognised by
thadous themselves first n foremost,,in 50 yrs we cn see how much anti
or not being kuki propagandas hv done to drive such deep wedges amongst
us brothers’
Pupu Zou Melody Zou, just say ZOU, thats morethan enough.
Rose Malsawmi he group hi nuam tawh e kan discussion a puitling sia .
Onkholen Haokip Pupu, we r a nation. Ipi kahim ti discuss hilouvin ipi a
idinkhm thei diu ham ti thu a kìhoulim ihilou uham na? So i don’t think
platform like ATSUM, COPTAM etc is d solution. U know wat we all are a
trouble tribe. As far as laying down of arms is concern- it sud be d
first step for our unification. And if we discard Kuki now N accept Zomi
do we stand a chance to unify all the tribes of Manipur excepting Naga.
Nadav Manlun i’m proud to be zo n ma great 2 grand fathers were came fr
zogam too…n i’ll stand for dis….i don’t like dat british names us ..wat
they like or thought i’ll go for ma languages..
Lunkhel Chal Zomi will never ever be the solution, whatever wherever
whenever.
Lamcha Chongloi @kim, do not click your back button after post or
comment bcoz it gives results to double post/comment.
Pupu Zou Zomi Kuki is a troublesome nomenclature…….. as it could not
pull us under one administrative umbrella.
Nadav Manlun if we stand in zomi or kuki wat common languages r we gonna
use???
Lal Simte Pupu, both Mizo and Zomi are the same, and its not worth
argumenting.
Lal Simte When we/one said Mizo he/she means the prople of Zo, and when
we think of Zomi, we are thinking the people of Zo. But to my view
giving the name Zomi is correct, coz Zomi means Zo people(directly), but
Mizo need to be state as People of Zo(s)(indirect).
Onkholen Haokip Nadav manlun@ don’t worry about the language. All Indian
dont speak d same languages N neither do our brethren Naga.
Lal Simte!! I speak Manipuri, Hindi, Thai, English; but none of it
untill I spent time learning them or mingle alot with people speaking
these languages. But I never think of learning one nor spent even a
single minute trying to familarize certain word…See More
Lal Simte I CALLED ALL OF THIS ONE AND THE SAME LANGUAGE. WHAT WE READ
AS DIFFERENT ARE SIMPLY LIKE WHAT WE SEE AS SYNONYMS IN ENGLISH
LANGUAGE.
Sonmuan Tunglut dear friends, pls dont get too excited about this
Zomi/mizo/kuki thing. it gives u pain in the heart. and if u feel that u
have won some game or challenge by debate in this topic, the I really
regret to tell u this that U just an oridinary Kuki that the arunachali
knows as they considered the Kuki as war/trouble lovers. be the New
Kuki~ Be Zomi. hehe
Lalchhuansanga Pachuau There is some mainstream nomenclature… Mizo,
Mingo, Midum, etc. And, when we say tiger, it’s Sakei not Keisa….
like-wise Mizo is the right word and Zomi does not have any definite
meaning.
Lunkhel Chal @ Lalchhuansanga Pachuau: Even in thadou language, Mizo is
the right word .
Letngam Touthang …unscientific nomenclatre ti mai d hitah ta…lol..
Lalchhuansanga Pachuau Lunkhel Chal that’s why I said… mainstream…
Onkholen Haokip Dear zamlunmang, ganhing ju le va, Pathen thilsem adang
jousen bon hina (identity) aneicheh ule ibola identity/nomenclature
apoimo pen hìlou ham na? How will d world know N called us without name?
Samuel Zomi We are differentiated just by the prefix and the suffix, so
just omit/cut the word ‘MI’,from the word Zomi znd Mizo,the remaining
word is ‘ZO’. THIS IS THE RIGHT WORD Pupu. THEN, Mizo + Zomi=ZO,..HENCE
PROOF.
Honda Sitlhou In thadou, no offence pals, v calld d mizo s lusei, d
nagas s milong. But neva came across zomi…….. May b it birth recently or
ws i ignorant bout d issue v r talking bout means zomi,mizo. Wateva it
may b,v got similarities n dat is v r fanatic wit d banner dats v raise
to recognise our ethinic group. N dat shows v r none other, but ppl
seeking 2 b unparallel wit its own blood line.
Thangkhopu Haokip @honda: i subscribe to ur view..putting aside the
minute differences we had (ulnlike the nagas united solely by the
“name”), we had an almost the same identity..what we need, i think, is a
retrospection on what went wrong along the way..and of course the will
to..bla3
Letngam Touthang @rose: dats gud..else wat wl discuss ha ha
ha…hymmm…its bcomin mre n mre interstn…n nw al seems a gr8 philosopher+
politician+ social reformer as wel as destructor…ha ha ha…
March 29 at 1:56pm · Like · 1 person.
Sonmuan Tunglut its “the never ending story….” so here’s to all the
characters in the play~ Bravo. hehe
Rose Malsawmi maybe or so, everytwhere if there’s a subj relating to
this post it always rock.lol
Honda Sitlhou U knw, v usually, jokes a person hu pretend slep is hard 2
wake up. U knw v r all lyk dat but v dnt xcept dat v r awake…… He3
Sonmuan Tunglut mizo and Zomi don’t mind uniting what about our brother
KUKI.
DO they still insist that if we unite, the name Kuki should be used or
anymore ideas?? even if its not that bright. hehe
Rose Malsawmi i thought kuki is another tribe like whom we call
manipuri are kuki. buut seems like i’m wrong
Sonmuan Tunglut @malsawm~ the thing is that, they want to be seperate
but we, the others like them so much that they are compelled to stay
with us. the day we declare them different is what they are waiting for.
but we as a family will never let them go. so sad for them.
Rose Malsawmi awkhay, but is there any reason why we should keep them
with us
Hautinlal Suantak As strongly n rightly argued by Pu Vumson Suantak, the
author of Zo History, it should be Zo..n by the way, Zo is the oldest
name n can be traced to our past history in China by the name Zhou, Yo,
Cho etc..
Sonmuan Tunglut so what! the matter still remains the same. indignant
people.
Onkholen Haokip Chemtat pa thusim kiseichu ahikit tai….. A broad minded N
public discussion is needed. Let’s start fm d genesis again…..
Timothy Chongthu Truly said by the founder..but no 1 can cum 2 d
conclusion..
Lalchhuansanga Pachuau if there’s a war between those who prefer Mizo or
Zomi and if the winner beat the loser mercilessly untill they accept
their ideology, then only we will come to the conclusion… we will never
concluded this issue on a table with pen or computer. So, let’s stop
here and be what you are! Whatever you call yourselves, i will always
love you, as you are the precious blood of my Mizo tribe!!!
March 30 at 11:29pm · Unlike · 3 people.
Pupu Zou PACHUAU: Thats very logical and prectical idea.
M Limkhongam Zou MIZO or ZOMI it is not that easy as what it is. MIZO is
MIZO and ZOMI is ZOMI ! No issue.
Jon Lupheng Hangmi!! If v say n accept mizo s d sam s zomi n vice
versa,shal v accept tat there is no mor political isues concrng the
nomenclature zomi with ny establishd Govt ?the reason being,thanx 2 d
political settlement of d mizos wit d signing of mizo accord..so iz ma
personal perception tat the nomenclatre Zomi sud cum only v wen cn
establisd a state in d name f kukiland fm d presnt manipur n chin state
in burma..then,the pple of these areas n tat f mizoram sud constitute
zomis n the states s zomi states bcs v al frm “zou”..if nt den,the
relevanc of zomi in terms f politics wil eva reman questionable
Michael Mate cant we just all accept the term chin-kuki-mizo or if u
wish chin-kuki-mizo-zomi aka chikimz n end it at that,,all the so called
mizo-kuki r considered tribes by the giovt neway (zomi nt even
considered),,so if u wnt a nation how abt just “chikim”
Lalte Langel If u dont want 2 be MIZO then be wht ever u 1…. Prof
Siamkima khawlhring said that the term Kuki come from Bengoli word and
it is not BC years old Dear Pupu I think that there is a lil bit mis
understanding about how old KUKI is. In Bengoli Kuki means Head Hunter.
But MIZO or ZOMI meanz the ZO Peaple.
Nadav Manlun someone say kuki mean fox chaser.others say highlander,n
other say its a word fr tripura..n others say its fr arunachal
languages……n now in bengali words its head hunter… ..who gonna trust all
dis matter but we have to know that we peoples live in hills areas n
dat mean we can say we r zo…peoples.
Lalchhuansanga Pachuau This ‘ZO’ in Mizo or Zomi does not mean ‘HILL’…
as I understand…
Lalte Langel In Lushai, Hmar, Ralte, Gangte etc zo people means MIZO in
Paite, Vaiphei, Zou, Simte, Pawih, Marra or Lakher etc Zo People means
Zomi… What is the meaning of Zo People in Thadou can anybody tell us?
Rose Malsawmi the ZO unite us. what else can we say
Lalte Langel malsawm rawn active teh in be leh ang tuman min chhang ngam
toh lo a nih hi,.. Bangchik ni chiang hiam in chu Lamka (not
churachandpur) chu Mizoram hi sak ni uh ooooooo
Rose Malsawmi hahha.. nia. nang zawng an ngam lo che nih hi, post danga
kawmen chu kan close.lol. heath hian kan la close lo a, hahha
Lunkhel Chal In thadou, zomi means ‘a giant figured ghost’..haha
Rose Malsawmi chal. hahah you did it.lol.
Lalchhuansanga Pachuau Langel… Lamka-ah khan Ruathlui Langel i hria em?
Lalte Langel hahahhaha very funny indeed it is a giant…Rose Malsawmi
i’ll be back after a short time c’mn keep talking and i’ll join you all
later.
Pupu Zou zomi, a giant ~ misaang…. there is a tale…. but that is another
tale….. not the Zomi of this nomenclature…
Lalte Langel @Pachuau ai hre lo hlauh mai chu ti ang an lo om ni mo a
hmeltra em? hehehe Pu Suakhnuana(L) Petrol Pump neitupa Mizoram
khawchhuak ngei kha chu ka hre chiang khawp mai….
Pupu Zou READ THIS ARTICLE, VERY
INTERESTING:http://www.vanglaini.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8491%3Amizo-hnam-inpumkhatna-lusei-leh-mizo&catid=105%3Aarticles&Itemid=466
Lalbawi
Khuptong @pachuau…duhlian tawng hmang thiam lo hi Mizo ah in ngai duh
bok c lova.Tu in nge mizo k ni inti duh ang.
Lalte Langel @Khuptong na zuau ei ve Mizogam ah na om kha ta hia? Lai
ten Duhlian pau a siam kei uh hi le le Mizo hi tho uh, a chang chuan in
hriat thiamloh na te poh a om ve tryn ang chu. Lusei pau a siam loh ziak
a Mizo hih loh nang bang mah om lo. Mi hai te vai mai2 hi huai ch
Lalbawi Khuptong @langel zuau gen zo hilo keive.kei mah2 inle hiai
kampau honzat khum uh eive.Nang chu i tawng a pai em mai Mizo ini lo hon
chi uh zaw na lo sam ei ngal.
Lalte Langel Huai te a hai man uh ei voi a ha2 lehkha le a siam lo lo hi
zo mah lai uh… Misual.com a nia sim zel in o. Hmar pan le na tuak khak
bang a na tuak kha ta huai phet lo Lai(Pawih) pan leng a na tuak kha ta
hi le le a mau in leng a hai man uh a hi chih thei ua, hi kei leh Lusei
chauh Mizo a hih un Mizo a tom lo tel kei di uh mo.. Lusei Lehkha siam
chiang in chu hon ci lo di uh a hi.
Loicy Infimate hmmm…..vry complicated, bt evryone has der own views n
opinions so its a wise thing 2 respct odrs views n opinions bt dat ds’nt
mean dat we shud supress our’s 4 d sake of oders as we all hav an equal
liberty 2 make a choice!!!!
Sangthang Singsit @lalte, duhlian tawng hmang lo chu mizo an nilo tih hi
i pawm duh lo anih chuan, zo hnahthlak ram tin i fan tlem lu deuh ani
lo maw… Tu nge ka nih tih an hriat hma a ka chipui kuki/thadou rel vak
tu hi, mizoramah an tam asin. Thadou ka nih avang in, H&T Technical
entrance pwh form submit an remti lo hi lo hre teh a. By grace of God, i
stil caryon my career. But, my motherland wil apologize to me oneday…
Ka t mah2 anih chuan min ngaidam hram dawn nia..
Lalte Langel @Sangthang chu ti ang a nih chuan MZP ah kal ta che.
Khawngaih in lo pom duh lo tu hming min hrilh thei m? Chief Ministar poh
ni mah se a lo pomlo ringot thei lo a sin. Higher and Technical a lo
pom duh lo tu che hming ka va han hre chak ve ooooooooo
Honda Sitlhou No mother tongue k. English,so dats evry1 knws wats in our
mind n view. Y do v need to remind again ha.
Sangthang Singsit@lalte, ye ur right…. I dont need to go. God knw what
right. All the 6 staff had been suspend last year with their wrong deeds
taken up with those of my friend. And 20 of my clsmate got mbbs with
the recheking answere sheet…. I wont take what i can got from my
motherland whicg i didnot achieve… Bro, i didnt mind that thing, coz, i
understand what people think of us.. Thu sawi sual ka nei anih chuan, i
beg excuse for it.
Lalbawi Khuptong @lalte,ahihleh mizo ten zomi te le mizo ahi uh achi
ua.bangziak a mizo te zomi k hi ki chi ut lo uh a.
Lalbawi Khuptong mizo nahi hon chi ua,bngziak a saptuam ebc,ici,efci,kbc
chih te khongah duhlian pau zangte hong tel lo ahi d uh?.mizo iki chih
utle le yma,mzp,mzrm synod,upc leh adng2 duhlian pau zang pawlpi te
khong ah i tel/khop lo aleh amau mizo dan a hong ngai lo ei ve
ua.duhlian pau lo le zo suan dangte pau le hong siam tum tei sam leh uh
zo hoih lo tel d hia…..
Lalbawi Khuptong @amos chu tak chu alom,mizo kan ni min tih fo chuan
khang post ho kha min it tur ani lo.
Nkc Thang Valte MIZO=ZOMI cannot be termed as both side of the coin as
they are the same side of the coin. LOL.
Mângkângzo Tungdim we must go on discussing to find amicable solution
one day
Thiangz Roux MIZO~ZOMI~KUKI~CHIN DILEMMA AGAIN! I BELONG TO NON OF THIS,
I’M FREE AS THE FLYING BIRD?
Samuel Zomi @roux,i do hope that your freedom is just like ”Freedom
under control,no one can escape in reality,if so also you will be
caught.@to all..pliz refer to my comments above while commenting on this
burning topic..
THE SECOND PART | NOMENCLATURE PLEBICITE
Suppose, If a plebiscite is to be conducted for our nomenclature, which
amongst the following (Kuki, Chin, Mizo or Zomi) will you opted for and
why?
Please a good answers. We are planing to published the article on our
newspapers back home.
Romeo Suantak Son, Daniel Touthang, Joseph Tou Thang and 5 others like
this..
Paul Samte Of course Zomi, because I’m Zou.
Lunkhel Chal @ Pupu Zou: If we are to speak in Manipur context, the
term Mizo and Chin must be completely discarded because neither of the
two; for instance Mizo from Mizoram nor Chin from Burma will never ever
accept the term Zomi nor Kuki. Instead, your present question should
be..which nomenclature to choose between Zomi and Kuki?
Letngam Touthang … 2 opt nly 1..i opt.. kuki..coz centuries bk both
national n internationl..v wer knwn as kuki ..if v r 2 change..den v nid
2 change d history n every single recrd includn d Britsh recrd..d
Britsh simply dosnt recg us as kuki..bt wit many unique identitis f our
forefathrs..if our history was nt yetrdy..so v r officlly knwn as
kuki..dats my opinion..sory if it hurts som1 sentimnt..lol…
Thiangz Roux I opt for MIZO?
Thiangz Roux For one own betterment, good suggestion is always welcome?
Golian Phaltual @Lunkhel Chal- I honestly agree wit U…so choosing
between the 2, i’ll obviously opt for Zomi !
Lamcha Chongloi @golian, r u sure? that’ll b another blunder mistake
committed after Pu Laldenga,afterall all EIMIs are ZOMI
Thangboi Tungnung i will follow what my forfather advice and shown me..
Onkholen Haokip My idea is-Chin- we are not a Chin.Mizo- in d first
place we were never a Mizo.Zomi- just because we hav become learned N r
educated we cannot create history N convince d people that it’s our
history. We all know what Zo/Jou means.Our history lays with Kukis.
Agree it or not, it’s what we are, hav been N will be. Just because of
some few fanatic orthodoxy people we cannot left Kuki….. Can we?
Samuel Zomi No chin-zomi-mizo-kuki,but ZO,we all are the Zo
suans/people. Under the umbrella of Zo, there can be integrety,otherwise
no. The above are languge based or tribe based nomenclatures. So the
only way for unification will be the time when we can say, we are the
‘ZO’.
Thangkhopu Haokip anyone out there with an unbiased argument, based
solely on facts..??
personal opinions on delicate issues such as this is/can be
poisonous..!!
but this is my argument too..so if it is in contrast to urs, pliz ignore
it.
Caroline Touthang Dalvi As for me, the sooner everyone stop this
madness, the better! What had we gained in d last century by breaking
our breaking ourselves down down down
Caroline Touthang Dalvi into smaller groups instead of working on
building our nation into a bigger, stronger, unified one nation. I am
sure
Caroline Touthang Dalvi deep within our hearts we know We are One but
the pull/push to separate is just 4 some few people’s gain is stopping
us from actually realising that we are One Nation!&
March 29 at 2:10pm · Unlike · 1 person.
Caroline Touthang Dalvi IN FACT, IT IS THE FAULT OF OUR PREVIOUS
GENERATIONS OF THE SO CALLED LEARED & EDUCATED FEW THAT WE ARE IN
THIS PITIBALE STSTE TODAY
March 29 at 2:13pm · Unlike · 1 person.
Caroline Touthang Dalvi when will we wake up ‘O my nation’?! It is very
shameful to let others know of our propensity to divide this further and
further!
Munglee Paite If your name is THANGPU and sombody called you
LETPU…..Will u accept it??? so, wakeup Mr & Mrs ZOMI…..Bangtan
thudik ki theihmohbawl a om om lai di nahia???? Bangtan na NAMBING
lungsim po lai lai tel di nahia oi??? ZO suan nahi a ZOMI nahi….
Honda SitlhouD issue in d post, i dnt thnk v need 2 coment or discuss.i
thnk evry1 would b beter dan me n knw wat is wat n which is which. I dnt
thnk i need to say. Cos u knw better dan me d truth. In ma view, its a
vry gud political instrument 4 othr e…See More
Bosco Singson till recently no one recognised as zo or zou,,,,, but kuki
only the word kuki is recognized by the britis or the govt. o india,
for instance the kukis is assam, nalagand or wer ever, if u go to assam
and tell thos eimis that they are zo… i dnt think any one will acep.
lets acep the fact that we wer called kuki and still we are… like the
nagas they hav differnt tribes but all are united in the word NAGA…
never the less they are not naga and naga is given by some other people
still then they maitain that and thay hav attend such glory, so its no
issue in changing the history to get mother land… lets acep how the
people acep us and just figt or it i m sure we too can achieve our goals
thru it…. thats my opinion any wrong coment i m sorry
Sangthang Singsit as for me which my brother bosco have said….. The
nagas they unite as one.. Though they speak different language. It’s
what the british give the name to them. As for us we all are recognised
as kuki. It’s a person who divide and rule upon us in order to
complicate our unity a more than a 10 decades of years ago. But, let’s
keep on our brotherhood amongst this khul/sinlung/chhinlung people…. No
matter what we are, lets keep our brotherhood. I apologize if i hurt
anyones mind or ideas,…
Lel Gangte Gangte Can I contribute other nomenclature like Manmasi.
Lian Phiamphu Lel Gangte Gangte… yes you can if you could include
Palestinian also .
Tklian Tonsing ”ZO” kahi kicilouteng kua ahia?Mizou in ZO hi a.Zomi in
ZO hi a.Chin in ZO suan kahi ci a.Kuki lah ZO suan mah hia.
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Let d Mizoram asembly 1st pasd in voice vote tat tey r
zomi n let tem suport n tak initiatives for d political setlement f
thier bretherns(kukis) in manipur..let d chins in burma embrace zomi s
thier nation..let a political problem witin manipur b settled by forming
a state in d name f kukiland..only then,the problm f zomi nomenclatur
wil b solved..cos the main problem lies wit our mizo bretherns..thier
act f betrayal,negligence r jus only few reasn 4 our disunity..the root
caus besetn our comon nomenclatur lies wit or mizo brethern..let d
sacrifice f kuki leader lk pu demkhoseh gangte fo d cause of our brethns
lushais be instald in each n evy minds..
Tklian Tonsing @jlh, u r right. Bro mizoram has da key role to play.
They hv independent land but their bro(we) r landless. I wonder if this
issue could strengthen our brotherhood relationship first n den
possession of ZOGAM territory.
Rose Malsawmi jon why should mizo vote that they are zomi
Paul Samte So deciding to take advantages against our bro Mizo huh? Past
is past, think for the future.
Tklian Tonsing @rose, bcoz they are “ZO” n they should vote their
people i.e. ZOMI
Rose Malsawmi :D mizo is the right word oh c’mon submit that you’re a
mizo and not zomi
Lunkhel Chal@ Tklian: It would be very good, if the mizo’s vote and
accept the term zomi as synonymous to mizo and even change their
nomenclature mizo to zomi or if the so call zomis just identify
themselves as mizo even if the mizo’s didn’t really accept them, because
there will be only (Chin, Kuki, Mizo/Zomi) and not (Chin,
Kuki,Mizo,Zomi) like the present..i agreed that we all are one but with
three different ethnic identities viz; (Chin, Kuki, Mizo). So, if the
zomis kept on insisting that they were not Kukis knowingly, than they
must join either of the other two. Mizo or Chin. But even that seems to
be a far cry again because, neither the mizos of mizoram nor the chins
of burma will never accept some small sections of the Kukis living in
Manipur and other north-eastern states of India as Mizo or Chin..;-(
Jon Lupheng Hangmi 4get bout past..Mizo,being a big bro besid
politicaly,economicaly wel setled,dey must walk n extra mile n tak d
lead role for our unification..n since v say zomi is nt a single
entity,bt comprisng f various blood related groups n mizo s i said hs
biger responsiblty 4 d abov stated reasons must tk d lead by voting in
favor f Zomi n 4 d unstle politcl problm f the groups so called
zou-orign kuki bretherns,takng d leaf ot f d nagaland suport 4 d so cald
political nagas bt historical old kukis(yor brethens)..n also 4 our
chin n kuki bretherns f burma takng d xample f tamils worldwide suportng
d cause f srilankan tamils..if dey(or mizo brethns) did long bfo inspt f
playn a game f betrayal,negligence n so n so,i firmly blive d present
turmoil in our society wud’ve surely bin avoided..notswitanding al
dese,v yor brethens in manpur,burma n evy1 r stil hopn a walk f solutn
towrds dis epidemic by u(mizos)..v cn chose n dump partners/frens bt nt
so in cas f blod relatd br
Thiangz Roux CHIN IN BURMA, MIZO IN MIZORAM AND
KUKI+ZOMI+MIZO+CHIN=CHIKIMZO IN MANIPUR. No more argument?
Tklian Tonsing @rose, If we can accept Feb 20 as ZOMI NAMNI, why not
ZOMI. Coz we didnt say MIZO NAMNI.@thang, this would just meant that we
can’t stand as one.
Tklian Tonsing @lunkhel, that is hypothetical. But Lets hope for good
things to come coz we too hv geneous leaders.
Lunkhel Chal I guess the founder’s of Zomi would have realised his
mistakes and folly by now..it would have beeen much better, if he had
utilised his knowlegde and skills in uniting the Kukis, instead of
disintegrating them. If the so call Zomis could landed this present
stage with just made up history or without any firm historical proof
than it could be foretell and is inevitable for us to reach the peak of
development if we worked together under the name Kuki, where ample of
historical facts and datas abound us in many of the prominent libraries
of the world..(no offence)
Letngam Touthang ..if d water in ocean b an ink n d sky b a paper 2..if
v r 2 rit d conclusion of diz argumnt..stil it won b enough 2 com in 2
conclusion….fed up…l!!!!!!!
Rose Malsawmi me too . lets all shut up and just be who we are now
Thiangz Roux CONCLUDED…!
Tklian Tonsing @LT, LOVE, FORGIVE n MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING, r the only
source for this conclusion
Lunkhel Chal
@Mangkangzo: if we happened to be zomi from the very beginning than why
did your grant father join the British Army as Kuki? And again, if your
grant father identify himself as Kuki than why the need to change your
identity to Zomi now? If we kept on changing our names like we presently
do, i doubt that even the angels maintaining the holy book in heaven
will strike off our names coz a true born again christian will never
ever change his name’s/identity like a lizard often.
Sangthang Singsit first… I beg sory if i made a mistake…or hurt
anyone.My dads kuki from manipur, i live in mizoram. U knw what,
everyone call me as manipur boy… And i have a fren from paite
comunity.,. What people adres is that “they are manipuri” in a school,
colege etc. So, what if my brothers and sisters from bigger comunity
call me/us. What would you feel. I’ve been the victim of comunal like
which in the zoram. @rose, as long as what everyone adres me, i’m
hasitate to be call mizo where on my lovely home mizoram or other. But, i
appreciate ZORO and MZP for their works amongst the
khulmi/sinlung/chhinlung tribe.., Mângkângzo Tungdim DAMAN & DIU
UNION TERRITORY MODEL deihuoi ka sa, tamnah etthei ahi:
http://mangkangzo.blogspot.com/2008/11/union-territoryindia-kumpi-uh-gam-daman.html
March
31 at 2:39pm ·
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Iz also surprising tat wen d banner of zoumi ws 1st
preachd ,a particular tribe wic nw tk up d leadng rol hd strongly oposd d
idea..bt ma qs is y did thngs hs turn d othr way round,only aftr d mid
ninetis??.. However,d best solution 2 dis petty politics(concrng t state
manipur) is 2 honour d blesn f the Almighty God tat v wr made 2 b born
in d presnt identity of our ancestors..if God plan wer f dif..v wudve
bin bornd in sum othr comunities lk tamil,asamese, etc etc..so best is 2
acknowld n b thankfl to the blesn f d almighty God 4our ancestors’
identity i.e kuki..lez qs ourselve hw cn v mak d blesn f almighty God a
cöntrovery wn v proudly cal ourselvs s bliver.
Hegin Chongloi the prblem wit us is we got too much ego, pride in these
names; our so-called leaders also has the same personality conflict…..
Ths issue can only b solved on the day of ‘The Second Coming of Christ’.
Munglee Paite ZOMI in kapiang a, ZOMI in kakhang khia, ZOMI in ka nungta
a, ZOMI in kasi ding.
Rose Malsawmi ALL OF YOU PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT THIS ISSUE NOW, THERE ARE
STILL MANY BUSINESS AND ISSUE IN WHICH ALL OF US HAVE TO TAKE AN
IMPORTANT PART, THE MIZO OR THE ZOMI BLLA BLA BLA , THIS WILL BE A NEVER
ENDI NG ISSUE, LETS JUST BE WHO WE ARE NOW, AND DO EVERYTHING TO UTMOST
FOR THE HIGHEST
Joseph Munluo Well Said Rose… There are Far More important issues than
this.
Rose Malsawmi :D let our light shine on whereever we are whoever or
whatever we are.
Rose Malsawmi :D no this in the end
Lalchhuansanga Pachuau What we need first is not a name, but to love our
fellow tribesman…
Mang Guite Let us look to the horizon, not our present but our future,
United we stand let us all be tribals no kuki, zomi, mizo just tribals,
what is ur say on this , dear editor.
Thiangz Roux I opt for MONGOLOID
Lal Simte Zomi should be the correct name but if Mizo speaking Zomis are
unconvinced, Mizo can also be a healthy option.we need land to keep
name, all name with out land will die away one day… so there is no good
or correct name with out a land in …See More
Lal Simte I will give my conclusion after few other comments…
Nadav Manlun let say like dis who want to be mizo stand in mizo,who want
to be kuki stand in kuki n,who want to be chin den stand in chin n who
want to be zomi stand in zomi…dat will solve the problem…sorry if i hurt
someones.
Hegin Chongloi its gud dat we’re having a debate bout our nomenclature.
This shws our unity. Long live the people of chin-kuki-mizo-zomi.
Lenn Chongloi Nothing less than 99.8% of our people will agree to the
fact that we are “ONE”; only when we try to agree on issues we have
disagreed such names/nomenclature, then we try our best to find our
differences! Even if we do agree on one name, if we do not hv a shared
vision, it would not amount to much. for the time being redirecting our
focus on areas of concern where we can work together as u-naos could
bring us closer and in the long run create platform for an agreeable
name.
Sonmuan Tunglut would it help if I post???? I dont think so. so, let the
public leaders vesting upon their own personal interest decide the
future of the tribals.
Tklian Tonsing ZOMI meaning “ZO” People is derive from the generic name
“ZO”, the progenitor of the ZOMI. We (Chin+Kuki+Lushai) r one n the same
storck n same race.(Lt. Col. John Shakespear n H.N. Tuck) Rev. Sukte T.
Hau Go also claims that ZOMI is the correct original historical name of
ours(Chin+Kuki+Lushai). We r inherited from China. But due to
settlement in different regions such as Burma, Bangladesh n India
neighbouring people called us as Chin, Kuki n Lushai respectively. Still
then we are one n only ZOMI.
Onkholen Haokip M not as religious. But looking at our past N presents, i
think we are slowly fulfilling God’s prophecy of end time predictions
shown in the Bible-the SECOND COMING. Let’s stop blaming our past
leaders. Atleast they were better than us, they fought together N help
each other. It’s very hard to wake up a half sleep person. We hav become
too clever, which makes things even harder for our unity.
Paul Samte People without their own land is like a blowing wind, so the
truth is we are not more than Manipuri.
Pupu Zou Seminar on composite history of Kukis begins IMPHAL, Apr 1: a
two day seminar on the topic ‘Haipou Jadonang, Rani Gaidelieu and Kuki
rebellion in the composite history of Manipur’ organised by National
Research Centre, Manipur commenced from today at Manipur Dramatic Union
Hall, Yaiskul Police Lane.
Speaking as resource person in the morning session held with Prof Ksh
Bimola Devi as the moderator, Dr Dhanabir Laishram said even though
every ethnic group settled in Manipur have their own history and
traditions, historians/writers of each community tend to include their
own opinion for the sake of publicity thereby creating confusion and
unnecessary tension.
Rather than create division it would be for the betterment of all the
communities and strengthen the age-old bond amongst various ethnic
groups in case stress of the writers in on composite compilation of
Manipur’s common history. Speaking on the topic ‘The historical bond of
hill-valley in Manipur:
A proposition of composite history’, he expressed that it would be a
profound error to allow geographical dimensions or statistics of
population or complexities of religion, caste and language to belittle
the significance of what is called the integrated Manipur of the past.
Pointing out that Manipur had been for centuries the home of several
ethnic groups, he referred to folklores and tales of legends to
substantiate that highlanders and valley people originated from a common
ancestor.
The session was followed by Usham Dhanan- joy singh’s presentation on
‘The role of Naga and Kuki elites in the formation of first responsible
Government of Manipur’, and Prof N Joykumar of MU on ‘Kuki rebellion and
role of Chingakham Sanajaoba’.
Lalte Langel @Pupu Dr Dhanabir Laishram is totally wrong coz the
Mizo-Chin-Zomi-Kuki never have a seperate history, they live side by
side, they have a common folk tales, according to them we have a
different history and tradition hahaha its totally divide and rule. coz
our tommorow leader will be the one reading this. I hope u know that a
few word is more powerful then a gun.
Tklian Tonsing @LL, u r right, all these stuff r just an illusion. We
should always remember that Mizo-Chin-Zomi-Kuki are ONE and the SAME. We
hv common Origin. I guess this is the right opportunity to stand
together as one again.
Samuel Lalrozâma Hmar This is a never ending DISCOURSE. Personally I
accept the term ZOMI but why we all must be called MIZO is because there
is a land called MIZORAM and a people recognized as a nation called
MIZO, if we can accept this term then we all have a home (emotionally)
and there will surely be a morale boost for everyone. I believe this is
the first step in reuniting.
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Dear samuel,let me know r u fully aware of d recent
development concerning the sinlung dev.council?r u saf in our land(as
acc 2 u is mizoram)??
Rose Malsawmi wait jon manipur is not our land. see to it that the zomi
have a land called mizoram. they are also called mizo , the thing is
just a geographical barrier and this will never break.
Samuel Lalrozâma Hmar Dear Jon Lupheng Hangmi , What do you mean by
feeling safe?? Please dont go out of the context. We have a land (if we
can accept it) and a tribe name in it (if we are willing to take it up),
that is what we are saying. Well if we want we can let this argument go
on forever, I’m just sharing my views, no quarrels, just a suggestion.
If we are going to your context, I don’t really feel safe and
comfortable being an Indian, where we tribals are neglected; but it is
our land and being called an “Indian” is what unites us (at least).
Tklian Tonsing @rose, I do agree wid u but what about our history. Zomi
exist before Mizo. As far as my knowledge is concern ZOMI is the right
term. Our bro n sis in abroad, they also called themselves as ZOMI. Do u
think it would be possible to change our history in just a few span of
time.
Rose Malsawmi history repeats itself because nobody pays attention to it
the first time think about it
Tklian Tonsing Stil den history remain as history, what u say so.
Tklian Tonsing Stil den history remain as history, what do u say so…
Lunkhel Chal Never heard any mentioned of the name mizo nor zomi in
manipur history before. Only Kuki, Naga and Meiteis lived here from past
immemorial. We the so call ‘Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi’ are all Kuki here in
Manipur.
Rose Malsawmi ahahaii..manipur is a land of meitei and kuki if i’;m
right. but mizo due to their shift in land have come across manipur and
some stayed there so.. m outta words now
Tklian Tonsing @LC, know that we do not belong to Manipuri.
Lunkhel ChalO Ibobi, CM of manipur made a very false declaration about
Ccpur census boldly and with full of confidence in him to back his
statement just a few months back by declaring “a large influx of
immigrant from the neighbouring Burma settled here in ccpur dist of
manipur illegally” because, he (the CM of Manipur) clearly knew the fact
that; the so call zomis who were never ever known before in manipur
history came up in Ccpur dist. say ( a few decades ago) by dis-owning
their identity Kuki..;-(
Lal Simte As long as we reasons just for a name we will land no where.
Manmohan have not became Indian PM because his name’s Manmohan.He became
coz his status and personalities all deserves him.We already got a
status and recognition as MIZO & with MIZORAM. So instead of
reasoning for a hollow names why can’t we just accept THE already well
equipt MIZO? Later on once we are strong and united enought, we can give
ourselves any name(s)- ehtum, bethu, what ever, but still scolars of
the world will still trace and write our history as- This people who now
called themself BETHU were originally called ZOMIs. who were in due
course scattered in different regions/areas and’re known by diff. names
viz. KUKI, MIZO, CHIN, etc. However, to the wonders of the world, to
unite and bring them selves back under one name/umbrella, and for
maximum political as well as economic gains, they called themselves MIZO
in the early 2000s, after the well recognized and advanced MIZORAM.
DON’T U THINK SO?…
Tklian Tonsing @lal, I can accept any name dats doesnt matter bt c dat
we r united n own autonomous state.
Tklian Tonsing @LC, yeah in a game no body should feel hurt coz der is
always ups-n-downss. Its just a matter for better understanding n
friendship.
Rose Malsawmi hahha..lunkel i feel assured as long as the neighbors make
noise.lol
Loicy Infimatey nt we put our heads 2gedr 2 brng out a new name 4 our
nomenculture, ofcors if we r givn d librty 2 make a choice, d reslt wil
nt b dat swit s expctd…..its an univrsal truth dat we wud go 4 wat we
r….no ofence, a mizo wud say mizo, kuki wud say kuki, chin-chin vis a
vis…..who wud b so dummy nt 2 opt 4 d schdl tribe he/she blongs to. I
blong 2 a mizo clan so ofcorz my priority wud b mizo coz m nt fool engh 2
opt 4 d odrs…..i dnt mean 2 brng out a rift btwn us, m makng d most of d
right gvn 2 me “freedom of expressn”………..dip dwn in ur heart ask urslf
if 1 of d above mentn nomenculture name is chosen wat wud it brng abt???
I can gurantee u dat WE’RE JUS MAKNG A HELL OF ECH OTHER’S….
Onkholen Haokip From this small group, we can easily deduce that a
common consensus on the issue of nomenclature is still very far. So,
lets be what we want to be N not disturb others. And also lets not
change our stand very often. Let’s just hope N pray that someday
something force us to wake up to join hands together.
Sonmuan Tunglut blah, blah,blah. who are we trying to convince????.
Sangthang Singsit ourself, myself and yourself… Is that wrng?
Sonmuan Tunglut do u know while were arguing about this name and blah3.
the population of meitei(Valleypeople) in CCpur/lamka(hill’s)is between
6~7K. by the next term they will have their own MLA in the hill
district.let us wake up before our land is being snatched away…or enjoy
the ride. or are you infavor of them????? Sonmuan Tunglut
how come I cant post in this group and only comment. if that’s the case,
I better leave this group. bye friends
Sonmuan Tunglut @tklian tonsing~ gud luck with your meitei brothers and
sisters. or are u planning to have a meitei wife.
Loicy Infimate calm down guys…..we r nt here 2 argue amng ourslf. Jus as
no man is d same, no 2 prsn hav d sme opinion, thou its true dat we tuk
our opinion 2 b d bes, its olso a wise thng 2 respct odrs opinion.
Meitei or tribal we’re all the same, exactly the way meitei ds’nt troubl
us setlng in n out of imphal town, y shud we bothr dem bng in hills???
Are’nt we bng selfsh tryin 2 b in both d plce wen we cnt tolerate dem 2 b
wit us…
Sonmuan Tunglut Oh! another fanatic of meitei’s
Sangthang Singsit meitei ug’s landmine kills how many inocent people…
Let’s not say about factional fight… The thing is that, ccpur is tribal
occupied area, why cant it can b control, u knw, tamenglong, no other
comunities live the excluding govt servant… There live only zeliangrong
tribe, u wnt find any mizo, paite, thadou, mara, vaiphei(excluding govt
workers).. But, in ccpur we are having lots of patience. But, it’s good,
that show our christianity which we live together with different people
from different comunity… I dont mean to hurt anyone… Plz excuse if i go
2 much.
Loicy Infimate thnkyou……u myt kol me watevr u 1,its a plesr, bt js 1na
let u knw dat evri1 is equal, exactly d way tribal hav d ryt 2 settle
within valey area, meitei olso hav d ryt 2 settle in hill area……WE R D
SAME N NOTHN GONA CHNGE DAT!!!!……..Sonmuan Tunglut
Sonmuan Tunglut try to buy a plot of land in Imphal in a meitei
populated area and experience the joy of living together.hehe
Rose Malsawmi oh the come and buy land in mizoram too
Sonmuan Tunglut very true guys but there is always a big BUT….I also
live ans settled at Imphal since many years back now. and I dont mind at
all. but one fine day when we want to claim our land. guess what??????
Loicy Infimate i m 4rm imphal, livng in a plot own by my dad…….n abt d
experence it is gr8 n awesome……thnx!!!
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Wake up dear bretherns our condition is pathetic..d
best n initial solution 2 our problem in d context f manipur is 2 stand
as the same,the one wich ws accepted by our ancestors n hs strng
historical bkground i.e kuki..let us suport Kuki state demand commt undr
the chairmnsip f pu chawngthalian hmar wit pu saunchinpau s
gen.secy..only den the isue f zomi is lkly 2 bcum relevance..no isue wit
mizo n chin in manp context..the best thng our mizo bretherns is 2
suport d dmand for our land fm d manipur state if they are a sensible n
reliable bretherns..no offence pls!
Sonmuan Tunglut by the way, do you know about the incident when eimi
veng was proposed to be inaugurated near Gamesvillage hills or the the
incident of Ramgailong near Shija hospital????
thanks for the comment anyway.
Sonmuan Tunglut @loicy~ thanks for sharing your experience which u
faces many years back. Im sorry if i hurt your sentiments but I talking
about present day scenario
Sangthang Singsit s tunglut, here in mizoram, we welcome everyone, but
our welcome does not always bear good fruit. Many meiteis ug are arrest.
And many crime and ilegal activities are more, which mostly are not
from mizoram, just like that, welcoming always wont bear good fruit. And
more they wil b, then, khualtha emaw kan tih kha, kan thihna thlentu
ani loi si.
Sonmuan Tunglut if u have a copy of political map of Manipur prioir 1980
pls see the map oF CCPUR and present day map of CCPUR.
Loicy Infimate Pupu Zou, nothng mch…..js a lil bit of opinion clash!!!!
Rose Malsawmi let me google it but there are some question that google
can’t answer. let me see
Pupu Zou ok, thats natural……….. keep sharing….. you are not arguing…
only sharing…..
M Limkhongam Zou actually Zomi is most appropriate nomenclature. Kuki is
named by British, chin is so particular mizo is known for peaople
living in mizoram. we can also called it chikim. or ZOUMI which means
the people of zou gam which we all belong. its just my opinion not to
hurt anybody
Sangthang Singsit anyway i dont think for any nomenclature, it’s which
we cannot decide by our own opinion, it should be done when the times
says it is in neccesary, before that, we have to saveguard our smal
land, that no nation or other wil scrach it…
Tklian Tonsing @st, I’m not going to take other community. I lyke only
Zo suante. Huh!!
Sangthang Singsit tk tonsing, u mean to?
Tklian Tonsing @st, dont u know Zo suante means?
Loicy Infimate thnx 4 ur advice, n abt hurtng my sentiment der is no
chance, we r nt at a fight, bt sharng an opinion 4 a betr 2moro,by d way
m sori if i was agrisve, dosnt mean 2 ofence any1….Sonmuan Tunglut
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Limkhongam@den du u agree dat zomi=mizo?
Sangthang Singsit mr jon, a person with zomi would’nt want that, and
mizo cant say that we r zomi… But, everythngs posible with GOD.
Sangthang Singsit a nom dwn chu mawle. When zogam or kukiland or mizoram
play final, i gues i’l watch
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Ya u al are right..we hav 2 honour evy blesins f d
almighty God spcly 4 our identity..kuki?y du v say v r naga /old kuki
sumtms bt nt kuki n den u say v are 1.is dis nt a betrayal 2 d blesns f
god.?in dis bkdrp i wud stl considr u all as ma own blood s w r
blesed..dats al
April 2 at 10:50pm · Like.
Tklian Tonsing If everyone could have the same thought how peacefully we
can settle down our sharing.
Nkc Thang Valte the newest and the latest but also the oldest ZOMI is
the best
Onkholen Haokip The newest N the latest, Zomi, so be it huh!
Nkc Thang Valte KUKI is a name given to us by the BRITISH ( are we still
under them), CHIN is the name given to us by the BURMESE ( we are not
to be called CHIN) , MIZO is the poetic word of our true identity i.e.
ZOMI. ( one cannot use a poetic word for ones identity) so ZOMI is the
true and only Nomenclature we had. Let us no longer be fools in the
Political , Power hunger Leaders, Self Centred and Hypocritic Leaders,
AND SO LET US UNITE UNDER THE ZOMI UMBRELLA. JAI ZOMI.
M Limkhongam Zou @nkc:ZOMI may be the best among the three I can
understand but what is JAI
Nkc Thang Valte upon reading the previous comments if we 1 2 unite then
ZOMI is the only solution because the zomi population in burma is too
much to be neglected ( lai, kachin, karen, matupi, kanpelet, chin,etc )
about three times of the population in India. ok . sorry if i hurt
someone’s beautiful thoughts.
April 5 at 12:01am · Like.
Letngam Touthang …bt 1 thning…whethr v lyk it or nt..d name that hv
been writen on our matric certfcte is our official name..same is d
case…in diz condition…
Lunkhel Chal I hope and belief that our brethren zomis will keep on
inventing more and more nomenclature(s) in the days to come. To speak
the thruth, Zomi Namni which was never heard and known even during the
early 90′s in Ccpur was wrongly publicised as it had been celebrated
here for a good number of past decades, and was said to attained its
golden jubilee, a few years back. Ha ha, what a lie??.
Lunkhel Chal@ Nkc Thang Valte: Please know, Kachin and Karen were
completely different to Chin and they have different state’s within
Burma. So, you can’t just stole someones history and say its yours. I
mean if you are not a fiction story writer. And…See More
Jn Haokip kukis r nt like a chameleon changing their colour
Lunkhel Chal@ Tg Mangno Zomi: its ok if Chin/Kuki is not at all
acceptable by the so call Zomis just because either of the two names
were a foreign/someone else language but please don’t write their
(Chin/Kuki) history as yours again. If you insist on saying Zomi as the
oldest amongst (Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi) than try to stand alone with its
unique history and don’t manipulate Chin/Kuki history as Zomi history.
This is a great sin.
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Hw cn one change his/her own parents lk a flirty hunk
changing gf evytm???one wud wondr if v cudve born parentless.???d
identity embracd by our own forefathers must nt be betrayed by younger
gens hu try 2 manipulate evythng 4 petty politics!
Lalte Langel I’ll opt 4 Mizo coz i belong to Mizo my 4 father belong to
Mizo. Even in 2nd world war my father grandfather (Rokhama) went to
French as a Mizo scout representing the Mizo=Zomi people.
Sonmuan Tunglut the issue is getting interesting by the day with no
commentor willing to opt for a common name.anyway i hope the intention
of PupuZou is not to give up our history but to come about an acceptable
name. we wouldnt like being called Hindu but we can accept being called
Indian. so let us change our views guys.
Lunkhel Chal@ Pupu Zou: one thing i am not sure till today is, (1)
whether the so call Zomis wanted to be at par with the already
established names of nomenclatures like; Chin, Kuki, Mizo i,e
(Chin-Kuki-Mizo) = CHIKIM by joining them (Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi) =
CHIKIMZO or (2) All (Chin-Kuki-Mizo) = Zomi. If it is the (1) case, and
if the Zomis have their own absolute proof of history, than why the need
to stressed the origin of the name Chin/Kuki and kept on saying they
were the names given by Burmese/Assamese/English and so these names are
unfit to be accepted for our nomenclature?? Let them stand alone with
their own past recorded history and show the world ‘The clean Zomi
History’ where the mentioned of the name Chin/Kuki should be completely
nil. The inability of this clean ‘Zomi History’ shows that they were not
at all a different people eventhough they insist on disowning the names
Chin/Kuki. And if (2) happens to be the case they were struggling for
than, why the need to be amongst the already established nomenclatures
(Chin-Kuki-Mizo) CHIKIM by joining them (Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi) CHIKIMZO,
instead it must be Zomi = (Chin-Kuki-Mizo). So, they failed tremendously
in both counts..;-(
Michael Mate Chikim wud b nice,,but if i had tio opt for one,,hwever
many the probs thr r wth the name “kuki”,,it is still the most suitable
Sonmuan Tunglut @lunkhel~ let me make one thing very clear. it is the
thadou speaking Kuki with their “Open ARMS” policy (Like you said) made
the Paite speaking Kuki afraid of being a Kuki in 1997 after the mass
assasination and illegal demand let to the creation of Paite Speaking
Zomi. pls dont mind but this is the bitter truth.
Rose Malsawmi i opt for mizo not because i want it but because i am a
mizo and i’ll be wherever i go, whoever or whatever i am
Michael Mate i wud put it further than that,,it all started way back in
1956,,the alienation of non thadou speaking sub-tribes tarted then,,plus
the non thadou but thadou speakin groups as well
Sonmuan Tunglut this was the mistake of the paite speaking Zomi’s 14yrs
back. and if they did not learn from their mistake. they including me
would be a fool. besides if the Thadou speaking would come under the
Zomi. what will they loss. they are larger in population and so still
wud be the leaders but persisting on Kuki if they want to lead a nation
wud be…..(i dont know)U tell me
Lunkhel Chal@ Sonmuan Tunglut: Thanks for spilling out the truth, infact
thats what i really wanna say from the very begginning and i will never
mind because you are not telling a lie. So, let the history of Zomi
begins in 1997 as you had already said and not in 862 AD @ Tang dynasty
of China (a Kingdom in the Chindwin Valley whose Princes and Chiefs were
call Shou). The greatest blunder on the part of the ‘KUKI INPI
Churachandpur’ was the peace accord they signed with the Zomi Council in
the name of Kuki and Zomi in the presence of the then CM of Manipur.
Instead, it should have been Thadou Tribe Council and Paite Tribe
Council/Zomi Council/What ever names, which signed the peace accord
because the two fighting groups were just two sections of the many
tribes which altogether formed the Kukis. By doing so, the Kuki Inpi
(The Apex body of the Kukis) knowingly/unknowingly recognised Zomi
Council as a separate entity equivalent to them and so from that very
moment. The so called Zomis identify themselves as a completely
different group within the CHIKIM (Chin-Kuki-Mizo). So, the new CHIKIMZO
(Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi) pops up. And now, i would like to appeal to all
my Zomi brethren that, it would be prudent to set aside internal
quarrels that have crippled our community for the past few decades or so
and converge on the identity Kuki for the benefit of our future. Kuki
is not being proposed because it sounds like a good name, but because of
its potential as leverage for actuating what is politically achievable
for our people. Intellectual honesty plus wisdom, which comes with
compassion, are qualities that need to be exercised against temptations
of skepticism, egocentrism and meaningless guile.
Sonmuan Tunglut i dont know why you are persistent about the word
Kuki.personally speaking the Zomi’s will not come under the name Kuki as
they have been blundered by the UG name starting with Kuki. they would
prefer to come under Thadou rahter than Kuki (suppose if thadou was not a
language but a name meaning tribals).the worst part of kuki politics is
that the KIM does not control all the UG starting with KUKI. no legal
court is there for a trial, if this is not the case. then why not who
likes war instead of peace?
Sonmuan Tunglut regarding the Zomi, it is not a paite institution.u can
witness the different tribes who are fed~up of extortion and illegal
demand seeking and obtaining refuge under the Zomi chaired by the Zomi
Council. and the best part is the leaders are elected from all tribes
joining the Zomi witha reservation seat for each tribe.
Samuel Lalrozâma Hmar Didn’t William Shakespeare rightfully say:“What’s
in a name? That which we call a rose By any other name would smell as
sweet.”
No matter what, i believe that we all acccept that we have a common
ancestry and that we have a brotherhood that …binds us together in terms
of language and culture similarities. No matter what we call ourselves,
we are not going to change.
I am of the Hmar clan, born and brought up in Mizoram, I’ve represented
India three times at the international level in sports, I’ve maintained
and engineered some of the Aircrafts that you fly on, I’ve made an entry
in an Indian movie, all in the name of MIZO. the only thing that makes
me happy is that I can spread the good name of the ZO tribe to others.
I’m happy that God has given me the oppportunity to show that the Zo
tribe can do something which others can, and maybe even more..
So, ask yourself what you can do for your tribe. Tomorrow I’ll be happy
to represent our tribe name as Zomi, Kuki or chin if its gonna bring
unity and brotherhood to all..
I requite my previous comment:This is a never ending DISCOURSE.
Personally I accept the term ZOMI but why we all must be called MIZO
(and not KUKI/ZOMI/CHIN) is because there is a land called MIZORAM and a
people recognized as a nation called MIZO in it, if we can accept this
term then we all have a home (emotionally) and there will surely be a
morale boost for everyone, from this will then spread awareness of the
different clans and dialects within our tribe. I believe this is the
first step in reuniting. MIZO is a very new term but it cannot be erased
now that it is part of the Indian Constitution’s official name for a
state tribe. So, let’s have an open heart, the choice is ours. Debate or
The end
Lunkhel Chal Please don’t mind this, but i hope you know the fact that.
All Kuki UG’s with the exception of those newly formed ones all together
unite under the two flagship banners UPF and KNO and signed a
tripartite SoO agreement with the Central and State Govt in the name of
Kuki UG’s only and nothing else..;-(
Sonmuan Tunglut @lunkhel~No.very incorrect. please do review your
statement or review your knowledge. coz I know that all the Kuki UG did
not sign for SoO.please refer to sadar hill’s context of UG.
Lunkhel Chal I mean those under UPF and KNO..UTLA, UKLA etc came up
after the signing of SoO. So, they can’t be included.
Sonmuan Tunglut may be u dont know the inside story.it’s ok. but do u
remember when chidambaram came to inaugurate the camp for KNO near
Motbung???on that day. some KRA faction were still found taking illegal
taxes on the highway 2Kms away from the town(to mention a few).this is
the present scenerio of Kuki UG.lunkhel pls dont mind, my intention is
not to humiliate u but to enlighten u as u may be out of state. so u see
displine in a far away glimmer in the sea under Kuki banner.
Sonmuan Tunglut still UKLA bears the name Kuki and should be controlled
by KIM not vice~versa
Lunkhel Chal Yeah, you are right. I am very far away from Home and i
really didn’t know what had happened there in Motbung as it was not
aired in either of the state, national and international news paper or
in any of the Radio and TV broadcasters, but…See More
Pupu Zou Its getting more anf more interesting. I dont know who control
who. The UGs control the apex bodies or the Apex Bodies (i.e. Kuki Inpi
or Zomi Council) control the UGs. In my view both are under the control
of UGs and vice varsa. Thats my view.
Thangboi Tungnung pupu dont enter in controversary topic its too much
complicated for all of us.
Onkholen Haokip No society or organization is perfect. There r flaw N
loopholes. If we r out here to find for a perfect harmonious
nomenclature, i think we better change the topic. Because changing
nomenclature won’t change the people but the people will……
Sonmuan Tunglut pls see dt6Aprl Hueiyen Lanpao issue and read the
articel/item regd UKLF by JM Zou.pub secy.
Lunkhel Chal @ Sonmuan Tunglut: pls paste the link here, if you really
wanted us to read the issue you are talking about. Heh
Sonmuan Tunglut
www.hueiyenlanpao.com/news.php%3Fnewsid%3D6198&ie=jPSbTdjaPIfZkAWZx-AP
Sonmuan
Tunglut or simply go to www.hueiyenlanpao.com.
Samuel Zomi Just like Jesus is the only way to haven,here the only way
to conclude this burning topic will be the moment when we all can accept
that we are the ‘Zo’ suans and can stand as ZO people, no
chin-kuki-mizo-zomi. Otherwise just like we need to go to hell,no way of
becomming oneness and cannot be ‘we felling’..
Sonmuan Tunglut case closed. hehehehe
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Samuel zomi@s u said jesus is d only way 2 Heaven,y
cnt u accept d blesn f God(d father Jesus) in respc 2 yor ancestor’s
identity “kuki” which ws knwn since ages..only wn u acknoledg d blesin 2
u,other things in relation 2 our brethens like mizo n chin wil
spontaneosly hv solutions..
April 6 at 11:23am ·
Sonmuan Tunglut that was what people know us many years back when we
were uneducated and downtrodden. now we are educated and its time for
letting people of the world know who we are.
dont be what people called u. be what u are originally. every man made
thing is ammendable. be the new Kuki~ be ZOMI.
Lunkhel Chal@ Sonmuan Tunglut: Please tell me: (1). when exactly is the
idea of we, the (Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi) group of people being the
descendants of ‘ZO’ came up? [Is it, after 1997. When the Kuki Inpi
Ccpur signed ‘peace agreement’ with the Zomi Co…See More
Samuel Zomi @hangmi..at the present situation that you can feel and see
that chin-kuki-mizo-zomi are lanuage based or a tribe based
nomenclature. Mojority won’t accept it, so who will oppose that we are
the Zo suans and the Zo people. You know chagelessness is what we are,
we know for the better but does’t want to change. It will takes time but
i’am sure one day we all shall accept my proposal or conclusion.
Lunkhel Chal The only thing i like about ‘Zomi’ is; my gf belongs to
Paite, who identify themselves as Zomi and nothing else. Likewise i love
all my Zomi brethren and i never hate them but i will never ever accept
the term Zomi till they return back to Kuki again..whatever, wherever,
whenever..haha.
Paul Samte Samuel, what you meant is that Kuki are decaying gradually
day by day so the consequent will be the extinction of Kuki right?
That’s one possible metamorphosis. @Chal, look, in ccpur, even the Misao
tribe converted them into Mizo, the Gangte too, Kom tribe into Zomi, I
don’t really know what is going on inside the Kuki. Chal can you tell me
what is the actual reason?
Lunkhel Chal @ Paul Samte: All ( Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi) groups were Kuki
in Manipur. So, its not at all a very serious matter and a concern
worthy of to be worried for..haha
Samuel Zomi @chal..i fell pitty or sad for yr gf(sory to involve..but
as u..) that she fell in love with the one who really don’t know who
kuki-chin-mizo-zomi are. Hope that she will makes you understand one day
as we are going to be our Makpa..ha..ha..plis convey the mesage to her
also
Lunkhel Chal Lol..after all, what i am is what she will also be. Pls,
dont interfere in our internal/family business..;-(
Paul Samte So then, why did they left Kuki? That means we all are not
Kuki. I don’t mind to be whatever as long as we can unite into one. I
think you too are one of those who don’t realize the flaws and
insecurity of Kuki and if it continues like this people will never turn
back to it and at last you will be alone. Don’t mind I just predict it
according to my view on the present situation.
Munglee Paite Lunkhel Chal, we kno u r misguided..we fel very pity of
u.So, we send our beloved sister to show da right part…lol…
Thiangz Roux The Zomi~Kuki dilemma again! Let’z all opt Mizo for lasting
peace prosperity…all beloved brother comrade.
Paul Samte Roux that will be inevitable after sometime.
Lunkhel Chal@Munglee Paite: i don’t think, a very ambitious young
beautiful doctor with an excellent academic records will lead me towards
the wrong path i,e; Zomi. I am 101 % confident that she will not do
this to me..Ha ha. @ Paul Samte: Is it possible for you to say..”I am
not my father’s son anymore” just because he doesn’t fulfill your
monetary demands for your pocket money? If you say so, than.. people
specially your families, your near and dear ones and your neighbours
will start laughing at you. And if you continue to do so, on and on than
you will became the laughing stock of the whole world coz people
clearly knew the fact that you are your father’s own son. Likewise, the
same thing happens with Kuki now..wat say? I recommended you to read
‘The prodigal’s son story’ in the Bible for your clear
understanding..heh
Paul Samte Chal your comment sound almost true, there is no relation
between Father-son and Kuki-Zomi, the prodigal son is the metaphor of
Jesus and us. So you seems hurt by my comment huh? You fled away from my
questions, if you are unable to answer it then don’t be ashame I
understand it. In addition what about the conversion of KNF into KNF
ZOGAM? I doo’t want any irrelevant answer please.
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Samuel zomi@pls tel me cn u change yor parents evy nw
n then?
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Paul samte@du u realy kno hu r dese misao?is der any
seperate tribe s far s yor knoledge is concenrnd?pls let me kno
Thiangz Roux A never ending collision???
Paul Samte I don’t really know but I just mentioning what happened in my
home town. Anyway, Misao are my Pupus because my mother is Lupheng.
Sonmuan Tunglut are Misao people generally whitish in complexion because
I’m confused about the name of a village “Misao lah vom” maybe next
time there will be a village names ” mitom lah ngou” hehe
Paul Samte Sonmuan, please no mocking to other tribe fine??? These are
the very causes of conflicts between two. Don’t mind huh!!!
Sonmuan Tunglut @paulSamte~ i know its hard to have a debate when the
person u ask or counter question answers your querry as if he did’nt
completely understand the questn. so you see sometimes its funny. many
of my querry’s and posts are replied like …. (cant tell find the words
to describe it) hehehe
April 6 at 3:01pm · Like.
Sonmuan Tunglut Im not mocking. maybe the Misao residing in that village
might be darker in complexion than the general Misao’s of other place.
ok fine. if there is any Misao sentiments that I hurt. than Im really
sorry. Im just trying to clarify my doubt
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Paul samte@if m nt rong u must b one f ma KATU tes
being yor mom a lupheng(hanghal),d elder bro f misao(neitham) bt yongr 2
lupho(ngoilu),d eldest..al dese cums under Hangmi/milhem..so tupa, ther
is no sort f particular misao tribe converting into mizo..this is nt
mor tan a rumor..dunot js count on dese..lk other chin/kuki grps,ofcours
v du hv clan lineag wit our mizo bretherns spcly d sailos..
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Sonmuan tunglut@sims u r atypical Tunglut s my othr
bros/frens blonging 2 tunglut clans..he3 no ofence pls:-)
Paul Samte Silly doubt!
Sonmuan Tunglut hehehe.sometimes normal is boring.
Paul Samte Kapu Jon, being your tupa, I do respect your words but till
then, I have a doubt i.e. After few months/years there will be an
erection of YMA in Misao Lhahvom, the people said, and the leaders of
(yeah Sailo) Mizo frm Mzrm came n granted Misao as their brother at
Kawnpui with a feast. Didn’t you heard about this before?
Munglee Paite No silly CLAN TRICK k@ Lupheng JONY Hangmi……
Sonmuan Tunglut@lunkhel~ about ur previous qstn that I didnt ans as I
was ofline was this
1. who is Zo?what is the meaning of Zo?what does Zomi mean?? if u can
ans this. then ponder the same about Kuki.2.is your forefather Kuki or
Mizo. No. Kuki is what p…See
Jon Lupheng HangmiPaul@dey du approach nt only misao lhahvom bt evn at d
level of Hangmi phungpi union bt our stand is clear v r kuki n mizos r
our brothers..v r for closer relationsip wit them!bt les nt 2 4gt dat
m.lhahvom is js a villages of d hangmis…HPU does encourage n welcum gud
gestures fm ny corners..spcly fm d chikims..lst bt nt d least dr mus b
interactn amongst us s muc s poc in any foms so s 2 breach d gap created
by vested pple
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Munglee paite@iz nt a trick bro..jst i m a litle bit
taken aback by an imature n atypical guy i.e sonmuan tunglut s i draws
cnmparisn btw hm n other tunglut frens/bros whum i hv known..nwe i fnd u
litle bit SILLY to usd SILLY TRICK..no ofence pls!
Sonmuan Tunglut hahaha. @lupheng~ nice one…hehehe but as u might have
known. U can’t teach a kinder garten kid Calculus. so Im only using
silly and simple words so that u can keep up with it .hehe anyway nice
one . hehehe
Samuel Lalrozâma Hmar What ever the discussion going on, I’m happy to
know that we are all accepting our brotherhood and common ancestry (of
the Mizo/zomi/kuki/chin) coz one of my Lusei Manipuri friend said that
the Zomis want to stand as an entirely different tribe and will never
accept the brotherhood (for which the word ‘zohnahthlak’ is used in Mizo
(Lusei) language) I was taken back a bit, I argued that it might not be
so…
Sonmuan Tunglut @Samuel~ have u come across a function titled: Zomi
fest? if not, then ur statement is obvious. as who can blame ur
ignorance.
Sangthang Singsit Neither anyone of our statement which we share are
what we knw….. Right? But, one ignorance must me advice for more
information. Onething, that person from thadou/kuki,zou,paite, hmar etc
come at the CHAVANG KUT at aizawl, but u knw, RIPANS MLT department HOD
and guest lawmi is those who came there. I’m at the registration and i
knw, even the ministers were invite, and so what, if they want the unity
amongst us, they must give an apportunity for all of us. Which all
comunities are always at the KUT in manipur (state level) at imphal. And
why not here…. at aizawl. Lushei’s they are major clan and they must
lead. Is’nt it not what i say? I’m just sharing what i think, not
opposer like in debate….
Sangthang Singsit Neither anyone of our statement which we share are
what we knw….. Right? But, one ignorance must me advice for more
information. Onething, that person from thadou/kuki,zou,paite, hmar etc
come at the CHAVANG KUT at aizawl, but u knw, RIPANS MLT department HOD
and guest lawmi is those who came there. I’m at the registration and i
knw, even the ministers were invite, and so what, if they want the unity
amongst us, they must give an apportunity for all of us. Which all
comunities are always at the KUT in manipur (state level) at imphal. And
why not here…. at aizawl. Lushei’s they are major clan and they must
lead. Is’nt it not what i say? I’m just sharing what i think, not
opposer like in debate….
Onkholen Haokip We all hav our own attachments. Likewise, we are
attached to our own community or tribe. Practically speaking, i dont
think there can be one united nomenclature among us unless something
compel us. Like i say earlier, history should not be created. Wats wrong
in d name ‘kuki’. Names r given and not born with us, right? Example,
ur name!
Lunkhel Chal @ Sonmuan Tunglut: Zofest is not Zomifest..hehe.
Samuel Zomi @chal..if I want I can interfere,why??doubt!! U are going to
be our Makpa..ha..ha..from your coments,the chin,mizo,zomi in manipur
are all kuki. U are absolutely wrong my dear,yr idea will not be
accepted by all the thadous speaking people,don’t talk or think abt the
chins,mizos and zomis. In fact, I want u to expand yr thought, don’t
stick only to yr place,our politics is international and globlalized.
For yr kind information, there were 5ooo Zo suans in USA and in one
company all the workers use only the Zo language, no
english..imagine.!!ha..ha..
Sanga Samte Maybe all those who live outside of Northeast should start
calling ourselves Chinki as is known of us by others. (no offence
intended)
Lalte Langel My oponion @Singsit i know u r staying in RIPANS from your
comment, i know RIPANS very well i think I hve been there b4 u r in
RIPANS…. Which is why I think that RIPANS is useless to deside weather
who you are. I know very well that some may hurt your feelings, but dont
worry someday we will be under one umbrella. When our turns comes we
will supplies everything from Mizoram…. Through Bulma hahahah
Samuel Zomi@Hangmi..we are not changing our parents’ name, instead we
are using the real name of our parents when we really see the grass root
level. Even the kuki said ”Eiho Zo suon I hi uh chu aw”. The Mizo also
said” Zo nahtlak kan nih hi”. Al…See More
Lalte Langel When ever you have time i want you all to read misual.com, I
want you all to know to know how the Lushai knew the “MIZO” dont try to
be seperated otherwise some sub clans will be very less. Remember under
1 we are many..
Pupu Zou I used to visit misual.com, since 99.99% was written in Mizo
language, its quite difficult to participate in the discussion.
Otherwise, if it is in english i would have educated all the members
that are selfish.
Lalte LangelAbsolutely i cant change my 4 fathers name one Question
arise are they called Kuki while they are in Paletwa? or while they were
in China or while they were in Chhinlung/Khul? My point is that some of
our expert says different origin about Kuki i dont know what to belief,
i’m confuse actually i do like my original 4fathers name what ever it
may be. Some historian also said that Kuki used to live in the then
MIZORAM is that true?
Lalte Langel @Pupu dont you worry all of them know english and you can
share your openion in english too.
Pupu Zou As we all know Kuki and Chin are not a person nor our
progenitor…. It is a name/nomenclature given to us by the earlier
dominants for their own administrative conveniences. Thats the reason
some people said, u want it or not, you are being officially known as
Kuki in India, but the govt of manipur divide us into small pieces again
for their own greedy policy implementation out of our ignorances.
Likewise, Mizo and Zomi are also not our progenitor……….. but they were
not imposed by others on us, it is our own creation from our own name.
Therefore, anyone saying, we are the decendants of Kuki or Chin or Mizo
or Zomi are totaly wrong. They all are not our progenitors. Some are
imposed on us but some are not. So, what to do……. for example, if
someone imposed same name for your family common name, will anyone of us
accept? I think this question makes enough hole to think by our own.
Lalte Langel @Pupu if you can show me how they all were not our
progenitors ill belief you.
Pupu Zou Kuki/Chin chate – Kuki does not have any son because is not a
person. Zomi/Mizo tate – no way, coz they are amalgamation of two words,
not a person again. Simple, hence proof………….. Lalte you are confused, I
dont used the word Zo….. i used Zomi/Mizo……..
Lalte Langel Thanks a lot but seriously your proof is very funny hehehe
i’ll think about it. Gnyt.
Lalte Langel @ Pupu some historian said that Kuki used to stayed in the
then Mizoram is that true?
Pupu Zou i heard it only now.
Lalte Langel Ok thanks a lot gnyt again sleep well, tonight my Chelsea
lose to ManU sob sob sob hehehe
Pupu Zou HAD THERE BEEN NO OBJECTION DURING THE MOVEMENT OF ZOMI
NATIONAL CONGRESS (ZNC) UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF PU T. GOUGIN ANF PU
THANGKHANGIN NGAIHTE, THERE WOULD BE NO SUCH DEBATE HERE. TUA ZOMI NGOL A
NGOL DI BANG CHUH TUA HUNLAI IN ANA NGOL UH HITA MAILEH, THERE WILL BE
NO KUKI-ZOMI DEBATES. WHY GOD!
Samuel Zomi@pupu..sawt pek apat Zo’ kici om hinapi, a poi mawh dan phok
khak luat a na om lo in, cih leh a poi mawh hun a tha khat a ih ong zat
sawm ciang a , mi tampi in na sang thei pah lo hii in thei ing, hun te
ong pai to2 in tun Zo suan vive ih hih lam uh kitel tek2 ih hih main a
tam zaw in ZO ci-in kikhai khawm leng sang siam pen leng kilawm sa ing.
Movement khat peuh2 koi mun koi gam hita leh aki pat tung a nawngkai
thei zel mah hilo hia kaci mai a..
Munglee PaiteHuailai,hiailai chi chi kei ni….ZOMI te vabang ipil
panta…thil itheisiam panta uh. adiklou leh adik kal khendan isiampan ta
uh. Tunle a viability/feasibility en kom tak in AUTONOMOUS TRIBAL STATE
Zomi Council leh ZRO huaihotna in INDIA GOVERNMENT kiang ah aki phu
d….Pawldang tuamtuam te phut asia kachikei a dem le kadem bokkei…Ei
hiaimun a iki sel sel ua iki tawttawt kal ua i melma ten pan ana lala uh
ahi chih haihkei ni….Huaiziakin,STATE dang a i unau te buaipihlou phot
in eileh ei ki buaipih phot ni…eileh ei ki tungding phot ni…. Thil
hithei di leh PRACTICABLE deuh ngaihtuah ta ni..ZOMI a kipumkhat thei
din TUNGNUNGPEN in thupha hongpe ta hen……
Thiangz Roux I opt for autonomous district for all kuki, zomi, chin and
mizo speakin ppl under one administrative umbrella in the road of
re~unification!
Pupu Zou Dear Lunkhel Chal, Kuki land might not be the soluton at this
moment under SoO ground. The only feasible option might be Autonomous
State within a state of Manipur. I guess Kukiland or Zogam is possible
only after getting autonomous. Wat say?
Timothy Chongthu Lets Walk by the path shown by our ancestors!!..KUKI,
this name has been given and recognized since time immemorial..and after
the later stage KUKi has been disintegrated into various other
TRibe..So lets all fall under 1 name 1 land with unity and itegrity..
Lunkhel Chal @ pupu zou: pls know, nothing will be possible without the
name Kuki.
Sanga Samte What if the British were not conquering our land?
What if the British were not separating our land to be a part of
different countries?
What if Goukhenpau dared to go and confront the Burmese as requested by
Nehru?
What if Laldenga was not too narrow-minded thinking only for the
Duhlian-speaking tribe(s)?
What if the Thadou-speaking people didn’t keep on fighting with their
own tribesmen and drive out our own brothers as Aimol, Anal, Koireng,
Maring, etc. to enter into a Naga fold.
What if we all can drop our selfish mindsets?What if we all can set
aside our communal mindset and fight for one common cause?What if…
Lunkhel Chal @ Sanga Samta: if all the if you had listed here were not
there, then we all will accept our own original nomenclature ‘KUKI’.
Sanga Samte Lunkhel frankly speaking I think you are too much
Kuki-centric, why try to impose a name that others don’t like, why can’t
we think out of the box and why can’t we try to make a consensus that
all can accept amicably. As someone mentioned unless we are compelled by
a circumstance it will be hard for us to change our opinion about the
subject. What say?
Sonmuan Tunglut some people will never change. and some are afraid of
change, while knowingchange is a sign of Progress so i really wonder
why????thats what we call “Persistent” or in Paite “Mitdel sialkhau let”
Sonmuan Tunglut what good can be brought about by this so called Debate
that we have in this group???
like the saying goes “its not enough just to aim at your target, u .must
hit the target” in my opinion.if Kuki land or so comes first.Zogam will
be one of its major cities likewise if Zogam comes first Kukiland will
also be one of its major cities. it not u or my opinion, its inevitable
Sonmuan Tunglut by the way, which part of Manipur do the Kuki’s intend
to call Kukiland! i guess senapati??? as they have previously sign a
pack with the Naga’s.
For the Zomis’s it’s mother land Lamka or Ccpur(sor your convienience).
Do u know. presently we dont even like to call Lamka Ccpur anymore??
guess why. its because it the name given by others. as we like to give
it our own tribal name.
Nemneivah Haokipwhy do u guys find it so hard 2 b called kukis…pls focus
more on da literature we hav like lushei kuki clan writtn by
shakespear,the kukis of manipur by t.s.gangte which were carried out
with perfect research methodology and data written according 2 da
knowledge share by our forefathers who know our roots much much more
than us…do some readings which can make u stand firmly dat u are not
under da wings of da kukis if not then pls dont draw your roots
according 2 your present position and status..
Bosco Singson coz u dnt realy care who u are… and u will be lost on the
way hihi
M Limkhongam Zou until a problem arise we should not discuss on those
topic
Lunkhel Chal @ Sonmuan Tunglut: You are very very very very very very
very very very very very very very right by saying, ‘Some people will
never change’ because you know the fact that! we, the Kukis can never
ever change our identity and nomenclature i,e ‘KUKI’ forever and ever.
Lunkhel Chal @ Sonmuan Tunglut: Please know, Kukiland includes; all
Kuki inhabitated areas of Manipur. To name few places in Ccpur (Lamka);
New Lamka, Buangmual, Mualveng including your own house compound till
Mizoram borders were all under Kukiland. Got it?? ;-(
Jn Haokip kalung dam.
Samuel Zomi @chal..this changelessness of yours is yr backwardness,
this attitude of yours is what we call ”khanmawh bawk” In fact you won’t
move forward as you are static, be dynamic and globalized for the good.
Pliz refer to my coments above. At this age, kuki is only language or
tribe based nomenclature. So if you keep on insisting, one day you need
to move alone.
Paul Samte Neh louding vong gaa lû daute… Zogam/Kukiland namu tah uleh,
Kuki noija kilungkhat tah a iumlai uva bon gimnam loua…
Samuel Zomi @nemneivah haokip..i don’t mind to be known as kuki, but at
this age, we better stand as ZO. Even the kuki said” Eiho Zo suon I hii
uh chu aw”. To be under one umbrella, we need to see at the
international level, not only manipur and india.
Lunkhel Chal@ Sonmuan Tunglut: And lastly but not the least, the leaders
of the Zomi Revolutionary Army (ZRA) because of their clear and far
sighted vision had embraced the United Peoples Front (an umbrella
organisation of various Kuki Underground Groups) in 2006 and joined
hands in signing a tripartite SoO agreement with the Central and State
Govt. along with their other comrades in the name of Kuki UG’s . This
positive development on the part of ZRA leaders shows that the ideology
of land and ethnicity is paramount over nomenclature.
Nemneivah Haokip @samuel..there is no differnce between kuki and
zo,both stand 4 hillman so if u accept zo y cnt u do da same with kuki
which is our oldest identity..
Lunkhel Chal @ Paul Samte: Please be positive, Kukiland is very
possible. God will help us. Who knows you could become the most
corrupted cabinet minister’s of Kukiland too. Haha
Samuel Zomi @nemneivah haokip..seems to be similar, but at this stage,
there can’t be one umbrella under the nomenclature of
kuki-chin-zomi-mizo, all these people were the Zo suans, so we can stand
as Zo. The above are all language or tribe based nomenclature, but ”Zo”
is neutral.
Nemneivah Haokip @samuel..we already created our identity as kuki why
go 4 somethng new dat leave confusn 2 every one..if u are da 1st 2
accept than there are lots of people who will follow your footstep..btw m
speaking thadou language not kuki ..
Paul Samte Hahaha! Chalpu, hopeless jong umponte… Sadar Hills jng khoiva
behlhah bngta. Manipur hi Assam ti beh phaleh na.
Lunkhel Chal@ Samuel Zomi: Thank God because ‘Zomi’ which was never ever
known or heard before 1997 could now be accepted as a new nomenclature
for the so-called Zomi group of people (who were Kukis before) but now
identify themselves as Zomi just because the Kuki Innpi Ccpur makes a
great mistake, and please stop this funny idealogy and propaganda of;
all the (Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi) group of people being Zomi. Instead,
follow the paths of the broad minded ZRA leaders who opted to be Kuki
than Zomi.
Timothy Chongthu @Sam…kuki is not a language..its a Tree under which we
all fall..we are the branches of this tree…we may speak different
dialects but we still fall under 1 nomenclature..
Samuel ZomiI seldom call my self as kuki, i’ am ‘Zo’ using Tedim Chin
language. I know u don’t speak Kuki, u are speaking Thadou, the language
which is being used by the peple who were under the kukis umbrella. U
know thats why I said it is language b…See More
Samuel Zomi @timothy..plis read all my comments above and explain to
yourself..so that u will realized what kind of explaination being given
by u to me
Nemneivah Haokip may b its human nature that every one crave 4 change..a
change from Kuki to Zo (which have the same meaning i.e.hillman)..but
one should always remember that change always doesnt bring progress,it
also brings retrogress and deteriorate the society..
Samuel Zomi @nemneivah haokip..plis read the above ” I seldom..mainly
for u..ha..ha..
Pupu Zou Nearer to thee my nomenclature, nearer to thee………
Pupu Zou @ Nemneivah Haokip, ha pan aw…… we are nearer to the
conclusion……… we all know that we are one, the only stumbling block is
our nomenclature…. what would be the solution?
Hegin Chongloi @samuel chin-kuki-mizo-zomi cnt cme 2gether as one b’coz
there a so many people like u who hve too much pride dat they dnt
accept any1s opinion.
Samuel Zomi @nemneivah haokip..u seems to be a sociologists..u know
some parts of the subjects..ha..ha..if you talk about society, u know
society itself is dynamic and not static. Seeing the grass root level, I
call my self as the Zo’ and we all shall be known as ‘Zo’ one day.
Lamcha Chongloii think the so called CHIN-KUKI-MIZO/ZOMI is a group of
people with same origin, culture, tradition, language etg. etc.. But why
we are so divided with the Nomenclature. Citing an example, the Nagas
are not having a unique identity, even from the same tribe they have
different dialect from village to village, no unique culture, no unique
custom and tradition still they can be one STRONG Naga. And their
Nomenclature “NAGA” is not termed by themselves, still they unitedly
cling to it very strongly. Eiho hi i itiu hita??????
Samuel Zomi @hegin..my country my life..ha..ha,,i’am not L.k.
Advani..our pride will bring unity to the Zo suans one day , and my dear
fren, u will be proud of me..and you will get the first prize of being
the proudest ‘Zo’ suans.
Pupu Zou Friends, we all know that we are Zo irrespective of our customs
and dialects and also we know that Kuki is our nomenclature. The only
problem is that some section of us cannot accept Kuki as their
nomenclature for the following reasons: 1). Since long time back, there
is to be siki Kuki, makhai Kuki (old and new Kuki), Kuki was under the
dominant of the Thadou speaking brethren. 2). The Thadou Speaking Kuki
acted as if they will always hold the super power/veto over their other
brethren, there was no equal representation of all the tribes in Kuki
Inpi. 3). The Kuki UGs did something which the other equal in majority
could not accept, like tax and what the UGs did till the present days,
one lesson here…. If any UG groups keep on practicing this behaviours,
there is a possiblity of another brother clash among us, by that time
the news society will not accpet our nomenclatures as we did today. 4).
Until and unless our UGs throw the power to our civil societies, there
cant be common platform.
Nemneivah Haokip @samuel..u 2 must b sociologsts 2 point me out
correctly..as a sociologsts u must b familiar of the word
ethno-centric..u are a perfect example of ethno-centric…
Lunkhel Chal Com’on, brothers and sisters.. lets re-built up Kuki again.
I know we can do it, no more Kuki siki, Kuki makhai and the likes
again. All of us will be a new branded 1000 rupee notes from now on..;-(
Hegin Chongloi @samuel i knw we’re all zo suans bt kuki is the name
which was given to us. I dnt particularly cling to kuki. Kuki/ zo
everthng works fine 4 me bt keep one thing in mind u cnt change ur name
after u’ve cleared the 10th class…sme way jst accept u r a zo suan under
the name kuki…
Samuel Zomi @nemneivah..nice talking with u..mangpha ciphot mai ni maw,
kei ka ihmut suak luata..Topa thupha mawle…
Sam L Singson beliv me…its n0t about history n theories or fact fo dat
matter…we ol knew it…its ol about feelins!! We may say were 1, bt n0t
withn..
Samuel Zomi@hegin..excuse me my dr, don’t exposed yr ignorance. This is a
kind of intellectual debate. I do hope that u ar not a regular readers
of news paper. U don’t know, how many people had changed their name. We
can change our name untill we die. If u don’t know the procedure u may
contact me. Bro. Hegin dedicated to u ” Little knowing is dangerous”.
But in this case, i’am not trying to change kuki into zo, seeing the
grass root level and international level, we can stand as
Zo.@hegin..excuse me my dr, don’t exposed yr ignorance. This is a kind
of intellectual debate. I do hope that u ar not a regular readers of
news paper. U don’t know, how many people had changed their name. We can
change our name untill we die. If u don’t know the procedure u may
contact me. Bro. Hegin dedicated to u ” Little knowing is dangerous”.
But in this case, i’am not trying to change kuki into zo, seeing the
grass root level and international level, we can stand as Zo. And under
Zo’ the rest will survive. ZO IS THE FITTEST AND WILL SURVIVE, IN THIS
WORLD OF ”SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST”
Sangthang SingsitBrothers and sisters, God one day is sure to give the
right name or nomenclature, we cant what we say dominant by ourself
talking difrnt language coz, we have a black history in the past more
than 10 years. So, plz forget about pass, redirectng pass again and
again is not a Nature for our CHRISTIANITY. LET EVERYONE EXCUSE EACH
OTHER. Ei iki neosah masangin vang KUKILAND/ZOUGAM/ZOGAM itih in jong
inei diu tahsan a um poi…
Lunkhel Chal @ Samuel Zomi: If you go on with this tradition of
changing the name of your Nomenclature from Kuki to Zomi, Zomi to Zo and
so on, than its inevitable that you will end up unsatisfied for the
rest of your life coz nothing better than Kuki will ever arise, and came
up with the conclusion in your very dying bed that, though i was very
much against ‘KUKI’. This is the best and only suitable name for our
nomenclature.
Samuel Zomi @chal..let see what happens..”tradition of changing”ha!ha!
don’t be so sad my Makpa, shall never change into kuki and when yr
sayings struck back, the back side of yr head, u will wake up and says”
ka sungh ten mailam di sau pitak na mu dan uh ai ve maw”.ci kawm-kawm in
na kisuang lah sim dia…we won’t ignore u, don’t worry..
Lunkhel Chal Samuel Zomi: Please atleast retain ur name i,e samuel
ok..or are u in the process of changing that too? Remember, the more the
zomis try to identify themselves as zomi, the more the world knew the
fact that they were Kukis.. Haha
Sonmuan Tunglut@lunkhel chal; Do u also know that KNO is a very biased
group and wants to dominate and supress other fellow brehteren. that’s
where UPF comes in. to gahter all the people being rejected by the KNO.
and the best part of UPF is that we accept the thadou speaking as well,
considering them as a brother which the KNO rejected and supress.pls
dont mind cos I sorry to inform u that ur info source/knowledge are just
like the cover of book. u should also read the contents.
Sonmuan Tunglut have u ever heard about kuki hills, by the way….all I
heard were. chiin hills, naga hills. lushai hills/mizo hills. now the
Chiin hills are opting for a name Zomi so all can come under one. I
guess if the Kuki dont want they can join the naga hills. hehe
Lamcha Chongloi @sonmuan, have you ever read books which says “the Kuki
people found living in Chin hills, Lushai hills etc are one strong
NATION having a unique identity and are not knowing themselves who they
are….. ” please find these books which have written records about the
Kuki history and read them. Becuase of the Thadou speaking group Kuki
cannot be torn apart. @samuel, ok names can be change. Bombay become
Mumbai, Madras become Chennai, Calcutta become Kolkata,Assam become
Asom,East Pakistan become Bangladesh then one question. what is the
former name of ZOMI?
Paul Samte Formal name of Zomi?….I think…Kuki.
Loon Gangte y sud we must hv one nomenclature? let’s create more n try
to love each other not bcoz we r Kuki/Zomi/Mizo/whaeva but human bieng
Lamcha Chongloi @Paul, you are 100% adih’e. We were Zomi/Mizo and is
and always will be but KUKI is inseparable, like people identify you by
PAUL even though you are SAMTE
Samuel Zomi @sonmuan..Naga te beak in na saang nuam le uh pha ve, gal
do2 ua maw ,kuamah tawh kilem taktak ding in lam en keng, tapa tai mang
zong kisik a apa kiang a ciah kik cing kisang zo lai sam hia, amau kisik
dan zong thei lo mai uh hia le..
Lunkhel Chal @ Sonmuan Tunglut: you will never come across Kuki hills
in any of the written history books because! Eventhough, Kuki turns out
to be at par with Chin or Mizo very lately. By the time those books were
written, Kuki includes all (chin-kuki-mizo) group of people. And Zomi
was never heard off that time..don’t feel bad, ok..hehe
Lunkhel Chal @ Samuel Zomi and Sonmuan Tunglut: Tell me, who were those
little group of people who try to call themselves as New Naga during
1997 in Ccpur?? Be frank, who were they???.
Samuel Zomi @paul and chongloi..if the formal name of Zomi is kuki,
then I thik we don’t need to use Kuki anymore. This means that this is
the time we should stand as ZO. Formal name is never use oficially again
and again. Formal captain of india in cricket is GANGULY suceeded by
Dhoni, if we still use the name Ganguly as the captain, then what would
the people and Doni thik over it..
Zoculsin Zou ZO tate akoima pou amasapen in IMANGPA JESU MIN IN chibai
kangbawl masa uh hi.
Tuoleh atung a thulu tawh kituo in.zah ding leh khenthei ding a,deihhuoi
thu ah, tam anei bang ahi hi.
ZOMI=CHIN=KUKI tamteng pen akibang chi nop na ahihi
Nemneivah Haokip lets say dat the formal name of zomi was kuki..wil u
agree after some years our grand children change zomi into some
others?..we should always stick to our roots instead of welcoming new
things which are hazardous..always remember that ‘a rolling stone
gathers no moss’..
April 8 at 1:30pm · Like · 3 people.
Paul Samte Actually according to my view, the Kukis have created the
Zomi from their own hands, not the ZO. Not even God destroys what he had
created so do the Kuki. Now examining the current situations, the Zomi
seems overweight the Kuki. Kuki will soon collapse as there was a
saying, “kukite toh thadoute akidou leh eimite thi2 yeng”.
Nemneivah Haokip until and unless our literatures and empirical
histories survive the kuki won’t collapsed…
Timothy Chongthu Guyz what had happnd b4 can not be changed..let us all
xcept dis n work for the betterment n unity of the society..No matter
wat name prevails let us all unite 2gther n work for the upliftment and
equality of each section in the society..
Sonmuan Tunglut @lunkhel~ ok fine. that was past. u tell me who signed a
pack with the Naga as a tribe among them. hehehe
Lamcha Chongloi @samuel zomi, when you cannot write spelling of a word
correctly do not talk about NAM instead go back to KG and learn by heart
the spelling that you make mistake.
Lunkhel Chal@ Sonmuan Tunglut: The Kukis never ever signed a pact with
the Nagas to be a tribe under them, t’was bullshit and the story was
just made up by people like you who always wanted to disintegrate the
unity of the Kukis. Please know, you name…See More
Thiangz Rou I just want to be CHIKIMZO? Nothing else…let’s all seek for
integration and try to have a long future vision instead of quarelling
amongst ourselves up and down…! See the nagas, though they speak
different dialect, they can unites under single one roof… We CHIKIMZO
understand each other dialect 80%, almost congruent, why cannot we
unite…? Dats becoz of our narrow minded n selfishness. The moment, we
unite, we’l abounded wit vast land of area, dominant…i.e, Whole of
Mizoram & Chin state of Myanmar, quarter of
manipur~assam~meghalaya~tripura~bangladesh, inhabited by us, CHIKIMZO
under one powerful administrative country…thank you.
Sangthang Singsit what ever we said is right from our basement, so, plz
lets unite not by name but by one another. Coz, by name at this stage we
wou’nt b able to make a decision. Where ever we are, we need to help
each other in what or wherever we need. That…See More
Samuel Zomi @chongloi..atleast u make out the spelling mistakes..good
to know that u are very excited. As u agree that the former name of zomi
is kuki, so plis stick to yr words, and don’t use the former name from
now onwards..it is irrelevent and try using the later one. For your kind
information, I do hope that I had achieved much more then waht u had in
the academic carriers.
Samte Mangboi hahaha…..Amos Chongloi, humour like yours sometimes speak
volumes even more than serious scholarly deliberation. Anywayz, i’m for
Zou/Zo whichever, becoz to me this should be the ultimate thing.
Bosco Singson hahahha…… even if we called zo/zou/zomi…… wen we look back
the history we are the lost tribe trying to find new names to suit the
changing world. which will finaly lead us to the history again.
Lamcha Chongloi Samuel:For your kind information, instead of FORMER you
wrote FORMAL that also in three places in your former comment, and still
you do not know where you make mistake, incomplete letters is under
consideration,check it out. And the example that you give does not fit
the topic. We are talking about WHAT while you are talking about WHO and
your example also speaks about WHO.How comes a ZOMI is SAMUEL who hates
a foriegn name to identify himself? If you are a pure Zomi replace
SAMUEL with a suitable tribal name. My boy higher academic does not
meant that one has everything. Even your age is too young to talk about
POLITICS. Complete your studies and come to the FIELD then you will feel
the difference.
Pupu Zou Plz, plz, plz no personal attact here……… try to focus on the
topic. As long as you understand, its fine…. if you guyz want to
personally teach each others about your mistakes in spelling and
sentences, please send them message as you beloved brothers and sisters.
Lets try to maintain courtesy atleast here.
Hegin Chongloi @samuel r u trying to let the kukis becme zomi in a
fortnight? My dear bro. kuki is the bigger name n moreover the ‘haokip’
popltn alone is far more bigger than the zomis alone….no offence… If u
hve the guts go take over your elder brother n see wat happens….if u knw
wat i mean. Reading newspaper alone cannot make me thnk dat zomi is the
bigger of the two…n pls buy the oxford dictionary bro…
Kaikam Paul Singson wow! wat an absurb things! do you called yourself
kuki or mizo or chin? answer this. this will clarify wat you u
intended….
Samuel Zomi@lamcha chongloi..age does’t matter..don’t try to block my
way just to hide yr mistakes. Do u ever read the bible?? Translate
samuel into Thahdou language. At this stage, I don’t need yr advice, I
do hope that I shall be ahead of u in ever…See More
Onkholen Haokip Dear fren, as far as this topic is concern, many of us
tried our best to convince each other with utmost courtesy but i see
only hatred among us, m sorry if m wrong, just sharing and nothing
personal. Pupa did a good job! A big kudos to him. But I think this is
not a controversy topic but we r making it controversial only. There is
nothing uncommon between the paites n thadou, they shared/have the
history, roots, culture N traditons though a little modified. Eg.even
stories like Benlam, lendoute, khupting/khupching & Ngambom/Ngambawm
etc..etc.are same. Kitoh masa leu hen pha d hija. Ahtwi keu nailouva
ahnou simpa ibang jeng uve! Thanks.
Samuel Zomi @hegin..i can present u if u want, not only oxford…don’t
show off yr ignorance,if u want to change yr name u can contact me.
”Name can’t be change” ..ha..ha..
Mund’s Zou @hegin chongloi r u kidding..”the haokip population bigger
than the zomis alone”. I suggest u read the above comment post by
Zoculsin..
Hegin Chongloi @samuel dear bro look hw ignorant n foolish u are. U gt
pissed jst b’coz sme stranger doesn’t agree wit ur thinking. This
thinking, the ‘ka thulou thu hisah lou’ thinking will never get us far.
If the chin-kuki-mizo-zomi have to be united we sud totally discard ths
starting wit u samuel n pls spread the word. N bout the name change 4get
it bro. Its 4 mannerless people
Hegin Chongloi @mund dat was jst a joke bro to convince samuel. Jst to
tell hm hw if all the chikimzo were to be under one hw will the majority
lke mizo n thadou spkng kukis accept a name of the lesser grp. Dat wud
be absurd!!
Jon Lupheng Hangmi lets du things that has wider apeal..lez stop
locality centric polictics lk moreh centric,new lamka centric,rengkai
centric etccc
Samuel Zomi @hegin..no one can discard me..as I said, my country my
life, don’t talk abt mannerless less, u might need it later. You are
just like the cunning fox my dr. When we all stand as Zo, lets see,
whose name comes where..
Hegin Chongloi @samuel ‘every1 2gether as zo’ like dat wil happen in
100 yrs bt i appreciate ur optimism bro. If we cme 2gether we cud be
‘chikimzo’ bt ‘Zo’? Seriously?
Hegin Chongloi ’CHIKIMZO’ cud b the best. United n strong, we stand as
one…
Hegin Chongloi @samuel bro no one’s talkin bout discarding u. Its bout
discarding the ‘ka thulou thu hisah’ feeling. Dnt get 2 emotional bro it
hurts me wen sme1 gts emotionl esp u my best debate..
Vangluah MungmuNg hegin chongloi says the right thing…what we want is
unity,r nt we??
And let’s not mention haokip popltn alone is bigger than zomi. It may b
but meitei popltn are bigger than us, hindu popltn are bigger than
meitei, chinese popultn r bigger than the hindu…”kangpokpi ban a khua a
om lai diam??”…..chih khak theih ahi….
Lunkhel Chal None of the name; Zomi, Chin, Chikim, Chikimzo have any
concrete and firm legal standing in India except Mizo and Kuki. But,
under the name Mizo (meaning Zo people) which was taken from ‘Zo’,
Mizoram was already created for the ‘Zo’ people. So, why the need to
unite under the name Zo again??. Instead, if we all unite together under
the name Kuki, the political aspiration we all have at present could be
solved by the Indian Govt very easily. Live and letlive in Kukiland
(Zalengam).
Vangluah MungmuNg kuki is the right one even the british also recognised
us by that but only the thadou says they are the original kuki(incident
in assam some years ago). Even the anal tribe are also kuki,some people
say. But i compare it like pakistan is a part of india in the olden
days …..if the thadou speaking people have not have such thinking,we may
not be this far…..
Kaikam Paul Singson it is useless to argue here any more. why? because
it lead us to nowhere. how? instead of uniting we are fighting for
division/seperation. we all are kuki’s in the eyes of our enemies n the
world. aren’t we? the enemies dont care whether you are kuki thadou or
mizo or watever you are… n when they want to kill u like before they
will make no distinction- kuki-chin or watever u claim coz its useless
for them to make. here we are still fighting over dominance for
sumthing. like the 90s, u wana witness again? if then fight for ur own
identity. you can call yourself chin-mizo or kuki… but alas! when such a
situation cums it wil be too late n your enimies will sweep u away like
sand in the beach….. you dont believe me? this is it. they say there
are no kukis last time becoz they are knwn as thadou as it happens…
mizos safe? no way! only those who run for thei life! and that also
hardly. so wat i suggest is lets stop fighting among ourself if u
reaalllyyy want to preserve your identity.! united we stand! no body
defeat us!
Vangluah MungmuNg to be really in the field,first step, gun culture
should be abolished in our society. But who will??…it’s better to study
and be a good follower of Jesus christ…if you are too wise,the UG’s may
target you….
Mund’s Zou @vangluah…ur 100% rite
Pupu Zou Friends, its enough now, lets focus on the remedies. You will
get it on another post about the conclusion.
Vangluah MungmuNg pupu zou you are right…..we talk,discuss,blame with
whom we are close…we neva discuss this thing with the hindus coz they
were too far from us…i believe and hope that oneday we may be fed up of
hatred among us and unite atlast…i am always in a positive mood for
unity…..but on that day, will we lose our our land????
Pupu Zou Mungmung, Sure one day we will be fed up of this hatred as we
do to the gun culture which we think this culture give us power, but at
all.
Hegin Chongloi one difficult but possible remedy cud b to abolish all
the church denominations n cme under one church…its difficult bt not
impossible. If God b wit us who can b against us….rt?
Sangthang Singsit thanks guys with you good words.
Sonmuan Tunglut so the only current solution is not to comment in this
post anymore. right!!!!!!
Samuel Zomi@hegin chongloi..don’t try to convince me just by yr
irrelevent assumptions. You are talking abt emotional..ha..ha..” u know
,u can read what my eyes can see till the end but sory to say that u
can’t read my brain..its becoz of all people…See More.
Lunkhel Chal @ Samuel Zomi: Chicago is in USA so you can’t write
Chicago, USA, Malaysia. Please don’t show your ignorance over and over
again here. I am fed up with this whole story of made-up ‘Zo’ and its
Zomi history.
Jon Lupheng Hangmi Samuel zomi@our political isues hv no relatn wit d
USA..du u thnk those 5000 wil gv us unity n state??jst bcs u r setled
doesnt meant tat u hv 2 change your identity lk a flirty gal..gues u gt
it!!!
Nemneivah Haokip i think this is a platform where the intellectuals pour
out their thoughts about the explicit remedy of our identity..isnt it
too blunt to brag about the strength of our community my dear samuel??if
we name our tribe accordng 2 numbers as u want it 2 b then your so
called …. cant stand against haokip clan alone..grow up
Samuel Zomi @chal..you know when some people knew what we don’t know
much..we felt hesitant and bored, might be its yr nature. This 5000
people might not brings unity but they will be the backbone for our
society..i know chicago is in usa,i’am mainly focussing to that
state.just log in www.sihzang seino.com. Don’t talk abt kuki, even to
use thahdou language will be just like we are in the lost world. If u
don’t know much to comment and fed up, just read what others comments.
Samuel Zomi @hangmi..it is very much related, we can’t ignore those Zo
suans in other countries..one person one vote..everyone needs to be
included for the real unifications,doesn’t matter abt the quality and
the quantity..as we include all in ZO. THIS IS WHAT WE CALL
ZOSUANNIZATION IN THE PROCESS OF GLOBALIZATION.
Samuel Zomi @nemneivah..kangpokpi banah khua a om lai diam, singara or
samosa sung ah alu a om theih lam lamdang a sa te a ding in bel ka thu
kuph te a tel hak ding mah hi. A pua lam vai mu nailo leh thei kha nailo
naih ciang ua maw..na e ka duang!! Thahdou sung zong a sung tawng na
thei peuh2 dian maw sangam nu. HAOKIP chasan tui nasah na lai
ham…ha..ha..
Lunkhel Chal@ Samuel Zomi: Please don’t boast off yourself mentioning
about those 5000 Zo population in the USA everytime U wrote a comment
here. Instead, think about how and why they landed there in USA. Infact,
that was a very pitiable and melancholic story because they were
Burmese refugees taking political asylum in other foreign coutries just
for a short period of time before their own Country’s condition returns
back to normalcy once again. And who were they? Kukis/Chin or Zomi? If
you wanna know more about this, you can visit www.ksdf.org or
www.kukiforum.org. Lastly but not the least, please also read Burma
history if you really have the zeal to know more about Kuki history in
Burma (presently Myanmar).
Jon Lupheng Hangmi samuel zomui@m talkin about manipur context
Thangboi Tungnung the end let their b peace among us
Lunkhel Chal And to speak very narrow mindedly like you do..Don’t you
know how many Kukis settled in USA and UK alone? Just forget about Seol,
Kuala Lumpur, Singapore etc. Chavang Kut, the harvesting festival of
(Chin-Kuki-Mizo) was celebrated in USA and UK every year for a good
number of years now. Besides, Kuki Innpi USA, KWS London, KWS Kuala
Lumpur etc were running very smoothly from the past few years till
today.
Nemneivah Haokip@samuel..so childish..when da haokip were talking about
kangpokpi and samosa..ur so called …might not even know the existence of
samosa and kangpokpi…i told u b4 also pls read some literatures written
on the basis of knowledge pourd down by yours and my forefathers who
know our roots much2 more than you do..dnt just try 2 change our
identity just by your present position and those 5000 invisible people
whom you keep on bragging about..
Lamcha Chongloi @Samuel:…. you did not admit the mistakes that you had
committed while writing comment. I am the only who Thadou who accepted
Zo since i am the son of ZO. This is my sincere advise that
REUNIFICATION of the ZOSUAN is not to be done the way you did because,
your statements contained words of HATRED. My brother LOVE alone shall
brings UNITY. If not LOVE then GUNs but never HATRED. Long live ZO.
Thangkhokai Haokip @samuel,Do u realy kn0w the so calld 5000 zosuans in
usa??they are n0thing other then chins c0mmunity Fr0m burma,so shame of
u.plz p0nder ur baseles propaganda.My m0ther is fr0m burma,we hve h0me
there,i kn0 everythng Abt kuki,chin zomi,their political status in
burma.shame shame…
Sangthang Singsit LET’S EVERYONE WAIT FOR THAT,OUR LEADERS WILL GO
THROUGH IT. LET’S TRY TO ACCEPT WHAT EVER THEY PROPOSE. THEN, WE WILL
LIVE.
Thangkhokai Haokip Chin nati0nal day in burma was celebrtd as z0mi namni
in newlamka.is this a child act or a sily act or wat??? H0w
dare??hahaha
Thangkhokai Haokip 0ne of The aim of zro/z0mi council: Banladesh,burma
,india a z0mi te teng2 gopkh0m vek d.zogam pallun sak d Hahaha…Are n0t
they the arm outfits who operatd 0nly in 2 sub divisi0n of
churachandpur???.
Thangkhokai Haokip There is n0 survival in z0mi. The zomi(s) hve n0
mouth and teeth in politiks! Truth hurts!
Lunkhel Chal @ Thangkhokai Haokip: Talom lom nangjong naval behseh
tai..haha
Thangkhokai Haokip Kuki ten ”tahchapa” etiu,z0mi ten ”takheh” atiu khu
kathow ahe.hahaha
Jon Lupheng Hangmi anomk cheh2 e hahah
Thangkhokai Haokip Samuel le ayang hi u cha hilh0n bou inte.hahaha Ayang
bol a bol d he.
Elizabeth Boinu Munlua my language is zou,but i prefer kuki,even in
india u said u r zomi people dont know,they”ll ask northeast kuki,
Munglee Paite @Boinu Munlua……….pliz kep in mind while u comment that
UZO is one organisation under the umbrella of ZOMI COUNCIL.
Munglee Paite @Amos Chongloi……..i MELMA te chi a kagen te kha mo ZOMI
te khantouh ding dal te, ei unau laizom te kikal a DIVIDE AND RULE
POLICY zang te,ZO suan kahi chih thei gegu a kitheihmoh bawl tei2
te…mahni angma di couh khuat a BEH leh PHUNG min a politics saite,mahni
gilpi puak di bak nagaihtuah phak ale neilou te……
Samuel Zomi @nemneivah..naupang lungsim bang aneilo te vangam ki-uk na
sungah lut thei lo ding hi aki cih mah bang in na lungsim na khel kei
leh kipum khat na sung ah ta lo ding hiteh..na kikhel baih leh nang aham
pha baih himai..ahun lap sawm aw..kalaisai tazen mah2
Nemneivah Haokip so sorry samuel..though we are same under the wings of
kuki i speak thadou dialect…
Thangkhokai Haokip @Munglee..TheUZO is under zcouncil,Nevertheless,thos
of vaiphei,zou guite,simte,gangte,paite,etc called themselves as kuki
in,assam,meghalaya,nagaland sadarhils,chandel,tamengl0ng,ukhrul and
Parts of ccpur.n0 doubt the uzo is under zcouncil,but all the zou tate
is n0t so.similar in case of all tribes except thad0u.last but n0t the
least,zdv is a kuki outfit under KNO.huh!
Samuel Zomi @thangkhokai..i myself is chin, but I call myself as zo
becoz i’am zo suans..those people in USA were the chins and they are the
zo.
Vangluah MungmuNg what i doubt is will there be any real survival if we
are all under kuki……
Nemneivah Haokip we survive and live happily until we were together
calling ourselves the kuki..differences and misunderstandngs started
when we fight against our identity and tryng 2 create new2 thngs
Thangkhokai Haokip @samuel,u dnt hve any ryts to imposed a name to
others.if the chins are z0mi,y n0t z0mi state instead of chin state.do u
realy kn0 how many people in burma accept z0mi??mind ur brain.
Munglee Paite Huaiciah kua a hiaimiun a ZRO in KUKI min in SOO suai akai
chi lai2…ZRO in KUKI min zang in suai akai zen2 kei. UPF sung ah KUKI
min zang(UKLF,KNF leh adng2) pawl aom chihman thu hi..KUKI UG chi a
ahong ging2 ziak ahihleh IMPHAL BASE media te ziak ahi.Ei lak a DIVIDE
& RULE policy zang ahi ih. Achiangzo sem a thei ut te adin hiai site
HOULIMNA | PU K. GUITE, ADVISER ZRO
www.zogamonline.com ah ana lut un…nachiang mai
Munglee Paite di uh. A INTERVIEW na teng2 le simsuak le uchin ase hetkei
d…
Vangluah MungmuNg even a single meitei person is not involve here but we
are like this…..sob…sob…
Wat i mean is U.T or statehood or independence?? C.c.pur may b the only
last option…sadar hills,saikul,kangpokpi,moreh etc…etc…may b this
particular area/village may b under our dominent but as a whole
dominated by the naga…
Vangluah MungmuNg munglee paite…..ki hichi tel hi eilak maw?? Gen gen
ale gen veng d hi kei,kuamah ki niam khiak lah omlou, ki hehpih tuah
chih lah omlou….a huchihlouh tak in UG hiai zahzah piang kenteh…..
Samuel Zomi @chal..plis remember till u die..we are judged by how we
end and not how we starts..so its useless to think how they landed
there. See their future and yrs too..
Vangluah MungmuNg samuel zomi…..burma te na hi hia kon dong zual,non
hilh thei diam??.
Thangkhokai Haokip !@vanglah mung, Thanks for ur c0nstructive c0ments.
As per my c0ncern,y n0t survival in kuki?? the bitter truth is that
‘Kuki’ is a rec0gnised n0menclature in india as wel as in
internti0nal.our hstry,culture, identity is impact to the world in the
term ‘kuki’ identity.eg.as recordd in britist library in l0nd0n. The
kukis are the major tribals in manipur according to the central.even
anal,chiru,chothe,m0y0n,maring,lamkang are kukis as per the indian
gvot.record as wel manipur govt.
The central govt.britist govt. Are aware of our war of independence
during the famous Anglo-Kuki war1917-1919. Again,regarding the
anal,m0y0n etc above menti0n tribes,Prof.gangumei Kamei term them as
politicaly nagas and culturaly kukis as he is aware who realy they
are.hence if we hve unity under kuki,i dnt forsee any hindrans or
obstacle in our future politics.sugest me if u thnk so.
Thanks!
Vangluah MungmuNg @thangkhokai….tat’s wat i’m trying to
say…lamkang,mayon,anal,chothe and many other sub-tribe are kuki and even
some section of kom tribe but they are under the naga(according to
them)now..language plays a very unconstructive role in ou…See More
Munglee Paite@ thangkhokhailet Haokip, i wonder y u always let us
remember our past ignorant…?? nidang in makai muanhuailou leh
pilkhollou( makai masa te kadem na a kagen ahikei), mahni IDENTITY natom
theilou leh TUIBUK leh HAUSA PUANSAN bak muhphakna neilou makai ineikha
uh ahi maitheii…Huailai in ZO suante hizen pi, ihihna uh genkhe theilou
a i om ziak un BURMA ah CHIN chih in i om ua, INDIA malsuah bial( NORTH
EAST INDIA)ah KUKI chih in i om uh. Huchi in thil bangkim ah KUKI leh
CHIN min in ahong pai ta…….tun ahihleh, ZOMI te vabang kipil ta hi…Thil
ki theisiam pan2 ta hi..adik leh diklou kal khendan kisiampan ta hi.
Adiklou te bawldik dileh, ahoihlou te suhoih ding in ZOGAM in nang hon
ngak ahi……..Hunpaisa a i hihkhelh te uh ziak a tapkotawng a kisel sel
lai di mo???? ahihkeileh, ihihkhelh te bawldik dia kuankhe di??? Mailam
not ding mo??? or Nungtolh ding??? Thupukna cu ng khut ah a om.TAKHEH!!
TAKCHAPA!!! TAK CHANU!
Thangkhokai Haokip@munglee, Thanks for ur c0ments. Regarding the,i sud
say lost tribe ,of abve menti0n.they call themselves as naga,c0z during
the unf0rtunate kuki-naga c0nflicts, the kuki peoples d0nt hve en0ugh
guns to protect themselves.but the nagas,IM were heavily armd,so they
enter the area,village of chiru,anal etc etc wo were kukis,they warnd to
gund0wn them if they embras kuki identity(muivah politiks).so the
people prefer thei head.the nagas protects them,take shelter wit
them.all this is the reas0n of what hapens to the all thos kuki tribes.
Wat ever had happens or may happen,The kuki peoples are firm and sticks
to their identity and fight for their lost h0mland.tahchapa!
Vangluah MungmuNg for my last comment in this issue… There is a brothers
A,B,C,D,E who always quarrel among themselves for many years…the big
bro A boast of himself being the eldest and fought with B…C took pity of
B and fought together with B. D& E run away from home due to some
other reason….due to this reason,the neighbour come and took away some
of their possession which they will never get it back…for the last
option, let the big bro A repent from his mistake,apologize for what he
had done and accept what ever the condition his little brothers
are..come together with B and seek D&E wherever they are…or else the
father will arrive from journey and what will A face?? Lost all his
brothers and even the neighbour took awy all our possession…. God uses
only moses to save millions of israel…
Munglee Paite @ THANGKHOKAILETPU…Kholdih, Sia PAU dong oh nachi a…..Ng
amah toh kihou khata mo??? a PLAN le POLICY te uh nangkia hon hilh zel
ya?? Ng ama ADVISER mo???? Wer did u stay rite now?? Huaichiah,
Zogamonline serve gige telak a 1 nahih aleh ZRO President PU
THANGLIANPAU interview na le nana et ka lamen…….
Thangkhokai Haokip @dear bro.munglee ‘history repeats itself’.I am n0t
c0ncrn to the past or present,wat m c0ncerning is the truefacts that
hapens withins ur society. A nati0n without politicl hopes cant survive.
In politics,our identity to others,to the world,how the world kn0ws us,
is the very2 main p0ints,than wat ever we cal ourselves,do u agree? I
am n0t offnding z0mi. So,do we hve any Future and Hopes in z0mi,zogam??
do the govt.even the manipur govt. Recognisd z0mi???Do we have any z0mi
politics hist0ry??do we have any records in z0mi identity?? So WHY
zogam?? Sepai lut teng2,govt.service mu teng2 le kuki min a lut uh hilou
maw?? Plz kn0w dat u r z0mi in ur house c0mp0und and u r KUKI after
crosing ur gate.. Again,i hop u kn0 the meaning of ‘naga’. so,Is n0t
‘naga’ is the word coind by the britist to the n0n-kuki tribes of
manipur?? Y they hve that much unity and words in politics?? Kuki is our
age old identity,we sud work together under kuki fold if we really want
our so calld zalengam/zogam?Takheh!
Thangkhokai Haokip @munglee..Y asking my plce??? Interview le simkha
mah e.kitawp hen nachih u hlou hya?? i ve kn0wn al those fr0m kuki ugs
of upf.ok,bro Plz let us n0t menti0n ugs again..
Munglee Paite aban ban a hong pai di aka hia@Kailetpu…hun hongpai dia
ihihna diktak(ZO suan ihi chih)ihon theih chiang ciang ua ZOGAM hong
piang di eivoi… Pangkhom di hang a, kithutuak tak a khe 1 a ihong ding
theih chiang a a SYSTEM hong dik di eicu…abang abang hileh, tu dinmun a
na theih dia kadeih ahih leh thil hithei di ngaihtuah phot in… tu leh tu
a ipoimoh uh ei singtangmi te atuam a kivaipuakna ahi..KUKI STATE
viable nasa ya?? Piangkhe zou din nagingta ya?? kencu
gingtlou…..Huaiziakin, ZRO leh ZOMI COUNCIL huaihotna a AUTONOMOUS
TRIBAL STATE( STATE within a state achih uh) INDIAN CONSTITUTION nuai
ARTIClE 244A toh kizoitawn a Singtangmi te kivaipuaknadi tuam ki
ngaihtuah pen ana sui det2 inla lungsim pichingtak pua in thupukna ana
la in…STATE pua a imi isa te buaipihlou phot in MANIPUR a om te
kibuaipih phot ni…..Na NAMBING/HAOKIP lungsim pilkhel tak kha paikhe
phot lecin ahoih di…he2….an neklim ow @ Khailetpu aw….
Thangkhokai Haokip Haha@mungleetpu. Naki chaivot mah e maw..hehe ATS
demand d na chih pen u hoihlotel eive.himah le govt.in ATM h0npeh sawm
uh hile kil0m.hehe..Nangle nek lim…
Thangkhokai Haokip Kipang kh0m theih d hile chuh ats pen sihet lou eive
maw…
But state toh akibat lou na bang2 e,Chief minister um di,separate high
court le um d ,separate administrati0n hidih chi hilou hya…kukistate toh
bang a akikhiak na?? Z0mi nakichi u hlou hya,tribal state na chi uh?
Hehehe
Sangthang Singsit sopi munglee, zomi or kuki etc, nomenclature sei jing
a, iki niel jing u le vang phat khat teng, phung a jat2 recognise hung
kibol le tua sanga iki toh lou joh diu ahi. Zomi kiti apha poi ka ti na
ahi pon, recognised din zomi kiti nom lamkai hon na hin tong le, manipur
govt chu recognised din ki ging jing inte. Govt official naga ho chu
approve bol d sa ei vet lhih jing u ahi. Ven, sopi a peng kop chu a hat
jo d a ki chu le, amelma koi ham chun aki khen tel lhon na diu va ma ala
tei ding ahi. Chu teng khat khat a, amelma pau chun nom tah a ajaw lhon
ding ahi. Eiho le eiho kikhen tel na ding thu ho vang koiman approve
bol pou te, chuteng nikhat le twi bang i lenkhom thei diu ahi..kakipah
e.
Lamcha Chongloi Samuel Zomi,this is what and where you make mistake who
has higher academic carrier while addressing your comment to @paul and
chongloi…………..”if the formal name of Zomi is kuki, then I thik we don’t
need to use Kuki anymore. This …See More
Lamcha Chongloi m not angry but try to correct him after all he is my
blood, my brother since im the son of ZO even though he don’t accept me
and did not admit his fault.
Samuel Zomi @ Mr. Amos..kum 3 tak pai khia thei lo ding na hih leh,
sawt lua lo ding hia, tua ci bang ahih leh ken ong veh ning ei. Tua
ciang nang pil na leh kei hai na’ thusim kikum ni mawte..hanciam hi hang
ei guai..
Samuel Zomi @lamcha..”correcting me”..ha..ha..atleast I owe u to say
thank you very much for your care. From yr 100% aggrement, I would like
to say once again” The former name of zomi is kuki”..bil nei khempeuh
mah in za ta hen..!!
Nemneivah Haokip there is no new and old name..only kuki exists and it
wil b 4 now and forever
Kaikam Paul Singson who among you think to be safe in time of terror
like the 90s? stop fighting among yourself! wats the point of arguing
such baseless reason? i see no reason. when the time cum you will be
sweep away like before whether u call yourself mizo, chin, kuki or
watever names u invented only if u dont unite now. some say that when
such situation cums we will be united, do u realy think dat u can do
sumthing important wen u r runing 4 ur life wen u cant even unite we r
free to do it? so i see no point. the future is upto us to decide for
our father made a grave mistak which u already witness. do u want ur
children to be victims of ur foolishness or worse than wat u had just
witneess?
Hegin Chongloi @samuel bro go please read English Grammar carefully n
cme to debate….cnt understand wat’s written. ” I myself is chin”…..”our
society can’t be progress”‘……This is 21st century dude……n moreover wat
if there are 5000/10000 zo in USA or UK or ….hell…lets say the moon….Do u
think they care….They are citizens there so 4get it man…..USA a naumle
Manipur nahung kile nom di…Zougam kimu jongle….
Thangkhokai Haokip Samuel chuh naopang eive,usa ah zo mi 5000 lam
0m,chihpou kigen a kihihsak pih mah2 Jachat na um val e.piching deuh in
c0ment pe ve…
Samuel Zomi For my last comment in this burning topic: I myself is a
Tedim Chin, using Tedim language. Knowing and seeing the fact that the
chins-mizos-zomis-kukis are the real brothers and sisters(Tuun sung khat
pan piang hi ngei2 hang ei) who were being seperated by the British by
their Divide and rule Policy. They were also being seperated
geographically by giving different names. In short, at present,they were
known to be mizo in mizoram,chin/zomi in myanmmar and kuki,zomi in
india also
zomi in different countries. They are using different
languages,lusei/duhlian in mizo, thahdou in kuki,paite in zomi and tedim
in chin(taking the mojority). In course of time, all these
nomenclatures seems to be language based or tribe based groupism. So for
the minority people,it seems they have no place. This might create
another type of groupism. At this point, no one would like to drop their
own nomenclature. I therefore came up with one neutral nomenclature,i,e
what we call Zo. All the chins-mizo-zomi-kuki are the zo suans. Lets
the world recognised us as we are the zo. Under the zo, we can be
thadou,paite,tedim,vaiphei,gangte,lusei..etc..etc language using-zo.
Don’t worry abt the common lanuage, it will be borned by itself.With
this, any kind of movement might be easier,faster and fruitfull.
Population also counts a lot inorder to raise our voice.so under the
zo,we shall be populated,rich in language,culture,rituals,traditions
etc..it will be a kind of ”Nation in the making”…As I won’t be able to
share all my openions here, I do hope that u all understood what I
really meant it. I’am sory to say that I might not reply back if any
comments. I just want to share my openions and u can compare with yours.
According to me no more chin-mizo-zomi-kuki..but the combinations of
all,i,e ‘Zo’. After all we are all zo suans. In brief, my real policy is
”Zosuannization in the process of globalization for the re-unifications
of the zo suans”(a dik lo a om te kimaisak tek ni)Lungdam.
Sonmuan Tunglut yeah right. every body go to sleep.
Lunkhel Chal I am not a ‘Zo’ suan.
Pupu Zou then?
Lenn Chongloi its very difficult for people who are new to the Zo
concept to have a buy-in soon enough but if most like it a viable option
but again we do have nothing to say who we are besides Kuki or chin
kuki? can someone help out with this dilemma? whats in a name nothing
and everything. I am reminded of salauddin Words what is the worth of
Jeerusalem when asked by the crusaders he said ” Nothing and everything”
… if finding a name will help us Iam waiting for the verdict. Pupu how
do u propose to statistically collate and come out with how many like a
particular name ?
Pupu Zou Len, if you really want unity among us why not just accept this
way? I am Zo suon, Kuki is my nomenclature.
Pupu Zou In my point of view, if you accpet Kuki as your nomenclature,
you are accepting all our nomenclatures, because Kuki=Zomi=Mizo=Chin!
Lamcha Chongloi My dear Brothers-in-blood, wether you accept ZO suan or
not YOU are Zo suan because ZO=FATHER and suan=son………….hhahahahaa JAI
HOOOOO……
Onkholen Haokip Sorry guys n no offence…What/who is ‘ZO’? Is it the name
of a person or place? I hav heard of ‘KHUL’ but ‘ZO’, it’s new to
me…can anyone explain ‘ZO’ in details…..?
Pupu Zou I have had expressed many time my views on which nomenclature
should i opted for if am asked. I opted none, because both are under the
dominant of one major tribe………. where the minor tribes are being used
as ……… you know better …See More
Lamcha Chongloi Dear Lunkhel, ZO is common noun whereas MANMASHE is
proper noun….hehehehe
Pupu Zou Lamcha, i think you are putting in ulta malta…… If Manmassi is
Khul Kon, that means it is common noun whereas Zo is a proper noun.
There are so many Khul/Cave…… whereas there is only on Zo……. hehehehe
Thangkhokai Haokip @rspctd pupu,Thanks for ur resp0nse.But,seems dat ur
resp0nse is in c0ntrast wit ur last c0ment,of wich u admit dat,ur
z0suan n kuki,ur n0mencltur.But I respect ur decisi0n.0ne m0r qusti0n
plz.,Do u believ that,the unificti0n of all eimis under ‘z0mi’ wil be
firm n sail well in our future or any hindranc u foresee??can the kukis
and z0mis wil ever unite togthr?
Thangkhokai Haokip Tehse h0n manmasi chate kadam nao ve.ati ji ngut u
chu aw na??
I think zo is the descendant of manmasi. So manmasisuan.hehe
Pupu Zou As far as the unification of Kuki and Zomi is concern…….. there
will be one day, but not in toto…….. The formal unification of Germany
into a politically and administratively integrated nation state
officially occurred on 18 January…See More
Lamcha Chongloi D/Pupu, i did’nt fused with KHUL and was briefing to
bro.Lunkhel that Manmassi as a particular person who existed times
immemorial(whom we assumed as our forefather) so proper noun……….hahaha
Thangkhokai Haokip@thanks pupu. accordng to u,what realy is the main
reas0ns for d bifurcati0n of us into kuki n z0mi??y likes uilekel??Hehe
As per my c0ncern,seems dat the kuki innpi(kukis) wil n0t want to be
under z0mi council,as I Thinks dat,say thadou po…
Pupu Zou i think we need to gather old files/documents to list out these
points. It all started way back in 1940s to 1960s during the
recognition of tribes in Manipur.
Thangkhokai Haokip But seems dat, I/we dnt ve heard of ‘z0mi’ Bef0r
’97(unao mel heih hun).M I ryt or ??
Pupu Zou Zomi starts from 1960s and and the first public declaration of
the name Zomi National Congress (ZNC) in 1972 at Daijang Village (My
Native Place). Pu T. Gougin as the Founder President.
April 11 at 12:13am · Like · 1 person.
Thangkhokai Haokip It is very unf0rtunate dat the PNC opp0sd the said
ZNC as also u c0ments 0n zgam.c0m.akiphu til lai chun kivaipoh na phatah
in ana um le pha d hja na??kipum khat na ana chepi u le. The
intrducti0n of z0 am0ngst us is too late dat we dnt hve any records or
our histry in z0 identity.tis is the m0st setback p0ints of z0.Kasei
khel am le…
Pupu Zou a dih nai………. awl in kihou mat kit taite na….. thil bawl d
khawh khat ka nei e. Mangpha phot te o.
Thangkhokai Haokip Ole nangj0ng mangpha.. Kipa a um e…zouLunneo,f0m
paopu.hehehe April 11 at 12:36am · Like.Lunkhel Chal Zomi is the
youngest brother of Thangkhokai Haokip..:-)
Sonmuan Tunglut some ou us say that Zomi has a recnt beginning. they’re
wrong but for their own advantage let me just make one comment. peace
lovers are never recorded and remembered in histrory, so all I say is
that even uf your all right about its beggining. if it has no history.
then now lets make history. we will be the ones who our grand children
read about. its our chance to b written in history. Uttaranchal was
never written in history till its partition. but bow thry will be. now
its our chance. hehe
Thangkhokai Haokip@all,A nati0n cann0t surivives and bears sans sense
witout political hopes and witout hist0rcal records.(n0 objecti0n to z0)
Hencef0rt,In politics ,IDENTITY makes a nati0n.our identity to the
world (n0t to 0urself) wil 0nly make us makes a sense and alive to the
w0rld and rself.This is my peak crest pin p0int of calling my self as
‘tahchapa kuki’ and opting KUKI,my true n0menclature. U will be ‘KUKIS’
and ‘ll be Called so till u reach heaven(may be hell or paradise).ha3
Thangkhokai Haokip @lunkhel chal, Hahahaha U hit the bush man!hehehe.
Thangkhokai Haokip @tg mangn0, Absolutly, U may have full rights,but u
will be n0t grantd.ha3
Thangkhokai Haokip @s tunglut. Peace lover are never rec0rdd.Hehe.. Jus
0ne eg, Do u think Gandhi is a war l0ver? Then why,he is the father of
the nati0n.is dis is wat u said’n0t rec0rded’.I kn0 ur points,u mean to
say dat,z0mis are peace lovers and hence n0t rec0rdd,while kukis are war
m0ngers and hence rec0rdd. Kukis hve political histr0y basd 0n their
rebelli0ns to the mighty britist wit their ‘thihnang’
‘pumpi’,saipiling,etc. Y? To safeguard their terit0ry which runs
throuh……… Even the zous j0int the rebeli0n,’zogal’ still they are peace
lover. u cant be a peace lover if I c0me and destr0y ur house. Hist0ry
cant be made,hist0ry are borned.
Sonmuan Tunglut do u think during the time time of Gandhi India is at
peace????.
u born urself history and when it reach 5Yrs show it to me.
Sonmuan Tunglut I think all the persons who posted in this column
including me should be called Tribal Utopians. hehe. history was borne
hehe… Hitler was borne but what he made was history. Huh childish
comment..
Lamcha Chongloi Dear bros: history is the written records of the past
including Peace and War and let us not debate on silly things, just put
down whether you agree with ZOMI thats all.
Thangpi Naulak i’ll opt for Zomi not Mizo
Thangkhokai Haokip Wit due respct to z0lengthe- @stunglut, ‘peace lovers
are never rec0rdd’
Do u think dat ‘time’ is a peace lover???d0 u think ‘time’ and ‘nati0n’
are same.do time hve hist0ry??
H0w dare u c0mpare peace lover and time? If u think u r mature
en0ugh,plz let ur c0mments make s0m sense. D0nt judge others by caling
them ‘childish’.My age may be half of urs but I hve my 0wn reas0ns and
brain in doing wat Has been d0ned.If u dnt undrstand the meaning behind
‘histry are b0rnd’ go ask s0me0ne n do back here.
Sonmuan Tunglut I think all of the commentors will feel proud of urself
when u make a good hit on someone through Ur comment. if so then. repeat
this mantra 5 times before U go to sleep. “think Zomi,speak in Zomi,Eat
like Zomi. and drink only Coca~Cola” hehehehe
Munglee Paite atung a comment te kasim sim leh SABBATH te ngen toh kisel
lah kabang maimah a……ka nuih za phing na e. hagagagagaga
Sonmuan Tunglut ken le huai gen ngam ngeilou hi ing a . non gen khe pop
a, a gud mahmah veh hehehe
Thangkhokai Haokip ’I thnk all the pers0ns who postd in this c0lumn….’
Do dis make any sense??? Do u think u r posting here by gving c0ments??
Munglee Paite chi lai2 le, ATS a VIABLE kasak na mah2 1 ahih leh Soo
ground rule ah MANIPUR KIPUMKHATNA(INTEGRETY) sukkek louh di chih kha om
kha ahih man in. STATEHOOD/HOMELAND ichih chiang a MANIPUR toh kikhen
ngai dia…Tu lel a MANIPUR NAGA te dinmun lah i jak2 sa uleh imuh2 sa uh
ban ah itheihsa uh hia……….
Thangkhokai Haokip I am n0t hitting any 0ne n0r is my intend. I am 0nly
giving my views.U c0mpelled me to reply and clarify wat u deservd
through ur c0ments,dear bro.dnt feel bad.
Munglee Paite @Thangkhokai Haokip aw..Thangkhokailetpu chi a kon sap
naziak ahihleh min diklou a minloh na teel zok ziak ahi…tun ah namin a
LETPU chih ka behlap mai2 le na lungsim akipak kholkei chih kathei(atung
a na comment te a kipan in)..ATM pemah uh ei…ATM pemah uh. TUIBUANG ah
SBI brance thak aki hong a ATM le koih uh hileh kilawm…..aaccount hong
masa penle nabehpa T.N .HAOKIP hijomahlai….hagagaga
Munglee Paite ngaihdam lua…spelling mistake 1 m kha, INTEGRITY chih d
hijo…koidih, kenle spoken english kava zil tei deh. he2
Munglee Paite TO WHOME IT MAY CONCERN :Ka min gelhdanlou in honsam
hetkei ua…..kencu pona lotel kahi..Mahni hihnalou pi a kisap chih
him2…umthei mong2 sih.
Munglee Paite 1 vei thak,atung a comment te kasim sim leh SABBATH te
ngen toh kisel lah kabang maimah a……ka nuih za phing na e.
hagagagagaga…comment le tamgop. POST dang ah lut phot mai
vai…KALAISAI!!!!
Thangkhokai Haokip ATS:To hve separate chief minister,c0uncil of
minister,separate administr,separate high court(even the manipur gov
stil d0esnt hve).
Wats d diff. Wit stateh00ds?? I thnk tis goes in par wit state.Beter
direct to demand of zalengam/z0gam. Any sugesti0n??
Thangkhokai Haokip Thangkhokaileetpu and mungleetpu are same.hehehe Tis
is jus shwng of dearness. U start first.hmm!!
Munglee Paite ATS toh kisai POST a om chiang in kikum maini o??? 2ua iki
seelna THUPI penchu COMPILATION OF AN ARTICLE ON “CHIN-KUKI-MIZO-ZOMI
PHOBIA” IS ALMOST COMPLETED hiamo Lawm…….lol
Lunkhel Chal @ Thangkhokai Haokip: Don’t worry, more and more unknown
names will come up in the future as long as Zomi exist..This is how Zomi
sprang up: From, Kuki National Assembly (KNA) to Khulmi National Union
(KNU) in 1946, Khulmi National Union to Zomi National Congress in 1972
(T Gougin), Zomi National Congress to Zomi National Council (unknown),
Zomi National Council to Zo-Reunification Organisation (ZORO) 5 March
1988, ZORO to Zomi Convention again (19-20 May 1988), than with the name
Zomi (ZRA) was formed with the objective of setting up Zogam, and
recently Zogam was again change to ATS, and day before yesterday YPA was
renamed YZA..and the trend will continue forever and ever..hahaha.
Pupu Zou Calling somebody with their proper name is highly appreciated.
Try to call people as they like…….. the joy of others from your action
or words is a blessing for you.
Pupu Zou Khel, please check your post again, there is no Zomi National
Council, its only Zomi Council (1997 ??????? confirm yourself). And your
arrengement is here and there type……
Lunkhel Chal @ Pupu: The absence of any concrete or standard books with
isbn tag in it regarding the Zomis forbids me to write the exact date
and all the abbreviations about the Zomis correctly. By the way, i tried
my best to make it authentic by going through a host of articles but
still failed to make it perfect. Sorry, hehe.
Nemneivah Haokip after going through the above posts again,i found that
zomi was pioneer in the 70s,my parents were born in the 60s so the birth
of zomi is later than that of my parents..i can trance my roots as zomi
since i was born later in the 80s but where wil i place my parents?do
my parents and myself hav different roots?
Lunkhel Chal @ Nemneivah: The term Zomi was used officially after 1997
only. So, i don’t think you can trace your roots to it..hehe
Nemneivah Haokip thank you so much…
Thangpi Naulak Lets conclude this topic he2
http://thangpinowluck.blogspot.com/2011/04/zomi-leh-mizo-chungchang.html
Sangthang Singsit let’s not talk about mizo. They will never want to
bcom zomi or kuki. U knw, i’m here, my friend does’nt call me even mizo
they call me manipur, but, i’m not from manipur. I’m from mizoram. When
someone knw while talking to my parent, speak mizo if you are mizo. So, i
dont want to b cal mizo…. I’m ashy. Even, this evening at the dinner…
What they talk about is, ka lungchang hi thih hem lo tah khat a kisun
abang jeng e…
Pupu Zou Dear Friends, Now we are all clear about who is who and what is
what. Who opted for what and why….. all is well now. My humble request
for the next step is that, lets put together the possible measures or
remedies for our brotherhood and unification. Mutual Understandings and
Future Visions. After that, we will discuss about the Autonomous Tribal
State related topics. As for now, lets close this here. Plzzzzzzzzzz!
Lets move on.
Thangkhokai Haokip Mizo hole chin h0 j0ng z0mi or kuki ahe tin asei in
seida jeng u te.state khat cheh anei u ahytan,jadoh u le ja chat a um
bep seu e.the0ry is n0t applicable in politics,athu a u nao,thisan
khat,sopi ehiu ve ti2 a apha ch0m d a um poi.CHIKIM te etiu j0ng ngahdoh
kinchar a pha ahy.tukhang hy n0menclatur a boiphat ahy tapoi.adang gel
lou vin Rec0gnisd n0menclture inei u KUKI min in state/ats kidel gang
chel leu hen eki hinso diu ahy.kipum khat phat ahitai.
kipan loi u te. Ka lawm e…
Lunkhel Chal @ Pupu: What about the so call Zogam, When? Within ATS ??
Coz Nagas and Kukis will still be in ATS. Kukis with a demand for
Kukiland and Nagas with a different motive.
Sonmuan Tunglut let us come to the bottom line.
CONCLUDING PART OF NOMENCLATURE PHOBIA DISCUSSION:
Dear Friends, Now it is time to lay down the require steps to be taken
in order to reach amicable solutions to our discussion. What should be
done so that the Zomi Chin Kuki Mizo can work hand in hand under one
administrative umbrella?
Thangkhokai Haokip In my point of view,the mizo and chin r out of our
c0ntext as they ve got stateh00ds.
The so kol kukis and the so kol zomis shud/must find for alternative
n0menclature other than dat we hve n0w that wil suits both the waring
n0memcltur. or beter let’EIMI’ be imposd as our n0mencltur,as every 0ne
of us is’eimi’.tis may be meaningles or uns0und, or wat ever it may be.
Since we dnt hve n0 opti0n so as to let the two poor people(kuki n z0mi)
to w0rk hand in hand!
As It is 0bvious the Kukis wil n0t acept ‘zomi’ and vice-versa. Thanks!
Lamcha Chongloi In my view, let all the KUKI fanatic specially the
THADOU speaking groups understand and digest that they are ZO suan/son
(children of ZO) and those of the ZOMI fanatic groups understand and
digest that without KUKI the future of our NATION is blur.
Thangkhokai Haokip I want the ‘ZOMI CENTRIC’ Particulary the PAITEs
c0mments and share their views 0n tis post!
Onkholen Haokip Quotes from the book ‘Zalengam’ written by Pu
P.S.Haokip, President, KNO, “Political identity & the legacy
associated with a person is often not the choice of its people. But it
is important to gainfully utilize that political legacy N heritage to
reclaim the lost rights of a people. That is why we need to utilize KUKI
identity to secure our heritage, which is presently subdued in Manipur N
Sagaing Division of Myanmar. Once we secure these, the unifications of
Kuki, Chin and Mizo could be under the name ‘Zomi’.”
Mang@ nang iti nagel em? Kenvang dih kasa’e…!
Paul Samte At last, unity is in hand. Let’s do this guys…. Our unity
will be our strongest weapon. If our starting point is flawless then
half is already done.
Thangkhokai Haokip Pupu, Wats ur views ab0ut PS Haokip’s line?Plz…
Lunkhel Chal If the need for a new name other than Kuki arises than why
can’t Zomi be accepted?.. I am cent percent ready to accept and embraced
Zomi. Incase, a new name like ‘EIMI’ is to be introduce for our common
nomenclature because Zomi atleast have little history since its
inception, when compared to the yet to be form ‘EIMI’. Likewise, Kuki
and Zomi can never ever be compared again. What say??
April 11 at 8:53pm · Like · 1 person.
Paul Samte All the Zomi are Kuki, and all the Kuki are Zomi. Like Jesus,
Isua, Jesu etc.
Sangthang Singsit lets try our best wherever we are, whether we are
student, banker, govt emplyes, ngo worker, or social worker, political
leader etc that we will go hand in hand to unite first is necesary
between our comunity not the name which we will give. If one another in
comunity love and care first. It is sure that our topic will come in
progress. Zomi-kuki hand in hand coz, we are one.
Onkholen Haokip As i hav quoted above, lets first unite as kuki and
strengthen it…be it cultural, social, political etc….because the name
Kuki is already everywhere. Practically, in this present context, it
would be much more easier to do anything in name of Kuki than Zomi. Lets
first establishd ourself and thereafter change the name to Zomi.
Pupu Zou Onkholen Haokip, PS Haokip thusei hi very logic but tempted
kasa. Kuki min a gam i thum uva, i mu phat uleh Zomi min hin man ding ti
vang chu chapang ho kisolna toh ki bang kasa bep sel e. If that is
gonna happen it would be one of the rare case or the rarest in the
world. Do you think that the people who called themselves Kuki would
accept that? I cant believe they would, if we are not ready to accept
Zomi, can we dream of accepting after things happened with the name
Kuki. But, on the other hand i agree that using Kuki for our movement is
the way out as it is officially being recognised as our identity in
India and International. Even without Kuki, things can happen with the
name Tribal, but one doubtful thing that would sprang out at the last
moment is that, we would be ask for our future administration. By that
time if we cannot stant in one platform, things would be the same as
before
Onkholen Haokip Pupu@nasei chu adih’e jng katinom dehpoi. It’s the only
feasible way out for us. Aluboh hidi inop soh keijeh uva lungboi ihiuve
na…. Ole natilou ham? Kagel danin thadou pao thoho titah louva jong
paite, simte, gangte, vaiphei, zou, hmar etc sung bon kitoh lou….. tun
eimi jousen (non-Naga) India sunga thildang titah louva ‘Zo’ recognition
mai2 del jong leuhen kum ijat ham isuhbei diu…hiche masanga chu public
consensus a kum tampi lut kit d ahin…it’s a very long term plan…right? E
topic discuss uhi asei hahleh e… Pathen in ibol etoh nalam jouse uvah
ma ipuijing taohen…..! THANKS
Thang’a Hkips Na coment hou chu ahoi thei lheh e. Ibouinao chu
kuki/zoumi ahn akhuti le hoitain gel ute kei ho nangho t umlou in
ahythei d pen2 chu suport jeng ute, zomi kiti le paite, kuki kiti le
thadou hytia egel u le vang khatcha thanup aumpoi. Sided feling kanei
jeh vang ahypoi kuki kiti leo hen hythei pen din kaging cha e. Ibouinao
hy kalung adong lheh e e p mong2 nada p uham? Kukilang/zogam kimu teng
paite ho a chen nao cheng thou2 thadou etc etc ho jng a chen2 naova
cheng thou d ahy. Dist/province hung ki hom intin hythou2 nah ta hyche
min d pentah a na chuti boui u ham? Gam mu nadia abai pen d nam min eh
hyjng le pom ngai ahytai.
Thang’a Hkips Kathada pen responsiblity toh leader.. Mi la hyti ki chu2
jeng.. Ha3
Thang’a Hkips Gam nei phot2 u tin ingam sung u va akithat to nom2 kithad
to u te, tua mi gam a eiho .. Mi khatbuh a ipan2 jeng u.
Pupu Zou I think the only way out in the context of Manipur is in the
name of TRIBAL ……….. not with Kuki, not with Zomi, not with Mizo…………..
Thangkhokai Haokip Chechu kito napen d vang hile akil0m e..pupu.
Neverthless,KNO& UPF hve signed the SoO,tripartite talks in Kuki
Identity,H0w abt that??
Pupu Zou To safeguard the integrity of Manipur tia kizihna noija soi
kikai chuh, khoilai Kukiland ham i sei sei na lai ding uh. First
autonomous, then slowly state (might be). hilou ong?
Thang’a Hkips Triberland iki t jeng diu o. Triber min ahy le mohseh a
naga ho vangpha kit ahy. SOo chu thupi jng ahypoi anup ule a extent da
ule kichai chula.. Kuki deilou jeh a gam mu lou d ahy le nan ho dei2 min
sah uvo gam mu nadi ahyphot leh..
Thangkhokai Haokip Direct state vang chu epankh0m theikitlou u toh kimu
ding in kenj0ng kahatah sanp0i. but H0p dat we can atleast get UT. and
ATS if the kukis/KNO support.
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Zawgyi Version: ဖလမ္းၿမိဳ႕နယ္ ထဲတြင္ပါဝင္ေသာ Buannel ေဒသအား တိက်ေသာ အသိအမွတ္ ျပဳျခင္း ရယူႏိုင္ရန္ လူထုကေန အစိုးရ ထံ တင္ျပ ေလွ်ာက္ထား သြာ...
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